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Old 08-29-2016, 10:07 PM
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I agree it's overgraded, but disagree with your assessment of what's wrong. The right edge doesn't look completely parallel to the white border to me. The amount of gray on the right side seems narrower at the bottom and wider at the top, to me. Given that, and the reverse effect on the left side, I would say the card is diamond cut, which is to say the 2 side edges are parallel to each other, but not perpendicular to the top or bottom edges.
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Old 08-29-2016, 10:31 PM
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PSA has gotten tougher on centering. A card like this may have been reholdering as the newer holders seem more desirable as folks assume they had a more rigid review. Always a possibility.

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Old 08-29-2016, 10:46 PM
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That's another issue I have with their grading methods, Cory. Many cards that qualified for a 9 grade 5 years ago would never get it now. But if somebody can take that card, send it in to be re-holdered, voila, they have a 9 that the card didn't earn on its merits. It's misleading.

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PSA has gotten tougher on centering. A card like this may have been reholdering as the newer holders seem more desirable as folks assume they had a more rigid review. Always a possibility.

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Actually an easy way to see that the card, even though the image is ever so slightly oriented on the angle, is parallel, is to notice that it is not straight in the holder. The card is tilted ever so slightly clockwise, which on first glance gives the impression that it may be diamond cut or worse, trimmed.
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Is Robotics-based grading far away?

The gap between science fiction and reality is getting shorter all the time.
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Is Robotics-based grading far away?

The gap between science fiction and reality is getting shorter all the time.
Not really
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Old 08-30-2016, 06:43 AM
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As much as I dislike PSA, I have no problem with the card being graded a 9. The corners merit a 9 and the only thing I see wrong is a very slight tilt.

Cory did bring up another issue though. On cards that are 'sliders' or over graded, it’s easy to send them back to PSA for a $5 re-holder, then the buyer sees the new flip and thinks they’re getting a card that was newly graded.

As far as robot or machine technology to grade cards, the same people have been saying that for years. I’m not saying that will never happen, but I will say it will never be as good as human grading (as flawed as that is). I look for it to happen right after robots start judging beauty contests
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Old 08-30-2016, 11:05 AM
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Note: here is the eBay link:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MICKEY-MANTL...MAAOSw0fhXmBNg

From the Ebay link you can clearly see some glaring issues! Hint, both bottom corners and the obvious tilt to the card!

Tell me all the things you see wrong with this "freshly graded" card. So much for tougher standards!

This card SCREAMS PSA 7 big time. Unbelievable!

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