Hunt/Casterline Pro Football Hall of Fame Card Collection

[TanksAndSpartans]

Originally Posted by robertcasterline

As one of the owners, I feel its only correct to respond.

Lets see the collection before throwing out your opinion.

This seems like an unnecessarily unfriendly reply to a thread that was sharing information on your collection. Which opinion offended you so much that you saw the need to join the board? I apologize if my post didn't stroke your ego enough, but I don't think I've ever been anything but friendly and encouraging towards other collectors - at least until now.

The website says:

Hunt and Casterline built an amazing assemblage of these rookie cards that includes the highest graded card available for each member of the Hall of Fame.

If the PSA 9 Nagurski isn’t in the collection, then the collection doesn’t contain the highest graded of every rookie card. That's not an opinion. It's an observation that there is a factual misstatement. Where do you even see an opinion on the collection in this thread other than complimentary ones?

By mainstream I meant some collectors aren’t all that excited by the hobby defined rookie cards. For example 1955 cards of Don Hutson and Benny Friedman aren’t exactly period pieces. I was wondering if there are items in the collection like those displayed in this thread:

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=201392

Ultimately everyone should collect what makes them happy, regardless of the opinion of others, but for some collectors it isn’t about most expensive, for some it is. Good luck on getting the Nagurski - I hope you can pick it up for less than 151K - like you said there's no way to confirm the prior sale prices....

[robertcasterline]

John

A small miss statement doesn't mean you need to pick apart the whole collection.
Yes, Joe from HOF meant highest rated set. Not every highest graded card.
Thank you for bringing that to our attention.
We are only missing a few.

Just go see it, Then comment.

Complete 1935 Chicle set-High grade.
Complete Mayo set
Complete psa 8 including checklist 1957 set.

My last post, So I will let you get the last word.

[robertcasterline]

steve w

Thanks for complement.
It was really a major commitment that we are proud to share with fans.

Robert

[robertcasterline]

Yes

As to your link.
The show includes


Complete 1931 Walker cleaner set in binder
Star candy cards
Mayfair candy cards
Spalding football cards
Nagurski Dixi ice cream lid PSA 8
Grange Shotwell cards
Kellogs cards
Complete Topps Magic photos

Its not so mainstream.

[TanksAndSpartans]

Robert, I don't see any of these mentioned in the link:

Complete 1931 Walker cleaner set in binder
Star candy cards
Mayfair candy cards
Spalding football cards
Nagurski Dixi ice cream lid PSA 8
Grange Shotwell cards
Kellogs cards
Complete Topps Magic photos

That's why I asked. Are others seeing these mentioned? I see this:

"Featured sets include the 1894 Mayo’s Cut Plug set, the first to focus solely on football players. Also included is the 36-card 1935 National Chicle Football Set, considered to be the “Holy Grail” of football sets, and the 1957 Topps Card Set that includes a “who’s who” of future Hall of Famers."

Mayo, Chicle, and 57 Topps which are all mainstream sets. I'm glad you mentioned those items are in there - that brings out information we wouldn't have had.

I don't think misstatements on the website are going to deter people from seeing the collection - that really wasn't my point - but the write-up had a few elements that weren't great, so I mentioned one of them - so what. The point was - here's an amazing collection on display at the HOF - take a look. But I don't think you got that as the point of my initial post.

Here are some statements I didn't mention from the website's write-up:

1. "A rookie card is not necessarily indicative of the player’s first year, but more specifically the first card issued with his likeness."

But that isn't what the HOF rookie set on the PSA registry is - those are all mainstream cards - the earliest is from '33 and there are some HOFers not represented which doesn't seem right - but I didn't mention any of that in my initial post because I wasn't trying to be negative.

2. "Most in the collector industry consider the 1965 JOE NAMATH rookie card as the single-most-valuable."

So that hinges on the fact that the Nagurski PSA 9 didn't sell at auction? - just seems like a technicality to me. Like it was brought up so your collection would have the most expensive card - who cares about that anyway? So I didn't mention that one either.

I'm glad you thanked Steve - that was a nice thing to do. If your first post had thanked me for starting a thread informing people (although a couple months late), that your collection was on display, I'm guessing the exchange would have been different.

[Hot Springs Bathers]

Robert the collection is amazing! Thank you very much for putting it on display to the public.

We passed through Canton two weeks ago and it made for a great stop at the Hall of Fame. I will also add that the entire Hall is wonderful. They still have a bi to go to match the presentation at Cooperstown but it is light years ahead of where it was on my first visit in 1989.

The card collection is breath taking. Like well over 90 percent of collectors in this hobby I could care less about TPG's and slabs but the quality of these cards is magnificent.

Thanks again for making it available and congrats to the HOF for a great job.

[robertcasterline]

Mike,

Really makes me happy to hear you enjoyed the collection. The designer hit a home rum when it came to putting the cards in-between glass.
I really had no idea how they were going to exhibit the cards.

I do understand the slab controversy, I just am happy they do it because otherwise I wouldn't want anyone touching my cards for any type of display.

I do agree that the HOF really is stepping it up, The Game of Life Hologram theater was amazing. It was my boys favorite thing to see. I think they are tired of my football cards and obsessive hobby.

Thank you again for kind words.

Robert