BVG to SGC crossover

[KCRfan1]

Orly,

Are you still crossing over to SGC from other graders?

[orly57]

No Lou. I just dont like BVG. I am ocd (as most of us around here are) and i just cant stand to see my cards in bvg holders.

[dio]

Just a quick update. I just heard from SGC yesterday, he told me , the grader without cracking it, can only give it a 5 minimum as base. He said it's possible to get a higher grade if they crack it out. So they're giving me the choice to accept a minimum grade of 5 to see if i want to crack it out and do a real grading on the card.

Now i think the problem with the crossover service is not that the grading company is on attack mode on the card that's in the holder , but they do not want to risk cracking it out and found out to force to give the card a lower grade it doesn't deserve. PSA is even more careful on cards especially gai/gem those company because of the reputation of slapping trim/altered cards.

I'll accept the minimum 5 and hope for the best.

[JustinD]

This is the case with every grading company in my opinion.

IMO the only way to get an honest opinion is to crack before sending as they will all go on the attack to prove they are stricter than the previous company. It becomes a egotistic chest bumping exercise.

[Exhibitman]

My last cross-over was from SGC to PSA and it dropped half a grade. I would have cracked it out instead but I was at the National and pressed for time to get it done.

What really cracks me up is the review process. Pay PSA a second time and they will admit they screwed up the first time. They don't even do a good job the first time...but I have to pay? My favorite crack and resub story is the PSA 2 1954 Bowman Maglie that I bought, cracked and sent in that came back a 7. Gorgeous card, FUBARed initial grading.

The services each have their own biases. An instructive episode would be the one I had at the last National. I bought a card from the second owner, a friend, who acquired it about 30 years ago from the original owner. He sent it to PSA and it was returned for minimum size. A stupid position, frankly, since it measured just fine. FWIW, minsize appears to be the PSA freak position: I have had cards straight from vending and packs rejected for minsize. Idiots. Anyway, I had some modern going to Beckett anyway, so I gave them the card. They rejected it as trimmed and sanded and beveled. Real whack-o conspiracy stuff. They readily slab trimmed (sheet cut) cards, so I am not exactly confident there. I then took it to SGC and they graded it a 2.5, which was fair for the card. Three TPGs, three opinions. All horse$hit IMO but that is how the modern card collecting biz goes. You want to play, you deal with the players.

[Bretsky]

Originally Posted by JustinD

This is the case with every grading company in my opinion.

IMO the only way to get an honest opinion is to crack before sending as they will all go on the attack to prove they are stricter than the previous company. It becomes a egotistic chest bumping exercise.

This...the only way to get a fair assessment is to crack it out. Is there a risk to it, yes. But I have cracked out SGC and BVG then sent them to PSA with decent results.