1952 Topps Upton Back ink misprint?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by FourStrikes

don't know 'bout the cards you're speaking of, but...MY vintage/tangibly "fuzzy" posters of Iron Butterfly
and Steppenwolf are on MY walls...so I hear ya!

DS

I remember this small, out of the way place we used to go when I was a little kid, in the late 1960s. It was a black light poster store. They had posters of matadors, ships, cities, sports stars and just about every blacklight poster subject you could imagine and then some. I think they went out with waterbeds!! (I hope no one tells me they still have one, I never did personally)

As for the card, it absolutely could be a mark drawn on there. I will continue checking it...

[irv]

Looks drawn on to me, but pretty tough to be a 100% without the card in hand.

Not a pencil mark, imo, but rather a black pencil.

Have you tried one of your erasers on it?

[Leon]

Yes, I just tried the eraser and it didn't erase it. The more I look at it the more I think it's ink from the mfg process. It has the same sheen and look, when held closely to look at, as the other black area. Still not positive though. There is a Beckett Raw Card Review this coming weekend, at the Dallas Card Show show, and one of the best graders in the hobby is doing it so I will check and see what they say this coming weekend.

Originally Posted by irv

Looks drawn on to me, but pretty tough to be a 100% without the card in hand.

Not a pencil mark, imo, but rather a black pencil.

Have you tried one of your erasers on it?

[ALR-bishop]

Let us know Leon. If it is part of the manufacturing process the next question is whether it is recurring and if so how scarce. Recurring back defects are hard to run down since there are so few back scans on eBay. COMC and Deans cards are where I try to run down back variants.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Let us know Leon. If it is part of the manufacturing process the next question is whether it is recurring and if so how scarce. Recurring back defects are hard to run down since there are so few back scans on eBay. COMC and Deans cards are where I try to run down back variants.

Will do.....again, same exact sheen to the mark as the other black box next to it so we shall see. If it were only a T206 I might be able to retire on it!

[SMPEP]

I'm pretty sure someone spilled blank ink on the card (maybe with water too). Look at the missing "n" in brown. Unless my eyes are deceiving me - you can even spot the edges of the entire blob of ink on the card.

Pretty sure you won't get to retire on this card Leon!

Cheers,
Patrick

[ALR-bishop]

If they can add a 61 Ron Fairly with an errant green smudge in the baseball on the back to the Registry, they can add anything they want . If they did he might get a weekend in Galveston.

[Leon]

It has been checked by a senior grader at Beckett and he says there is no doubt whatsoever it is from the mfg process and contemporary to the card being made. He said he didn't remember that error occurring on others but of course he wasn't sure of it. He just didn't remember seeing any like it. I knew it looked like the exact same ink because it is.

And Steve B in post 6, you might be right!!

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Let us know Leon. If it is part of the manufacturing process the next question is whether it is recurring and if so how scarce. Recurring back defects are hard to run down since there are so few back scans on eBay. COMC and Deans cards are where I try to run down back variants.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Leon

It has been checked by a senior grader at Beckett and he says there is no doubt whatsoever it is from the mfg process and contemporary to the card being made. He said he didn't remember that error occurring on others but of course he wasn't sure of it. He just didn't remember seeing any like it. I knew it looked like the exact same ink because it is.

And Steve B in post 6, you might be right!!

If it was 2 yrs ago and a T206 you would have a great find worth a ton of cash. Cool find anyway.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by bnorth

If it was 2 yrs ago and a T206 you would have a great find worth a ton of cash. Cool find anyway.

It will soar from a $4 card all the way to a $5 card!! And I agree it's kind of cool ....