I'm wondering if I just discovered Coach's Corners ebay name?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by keithsky

Maybe I'm watching to much CSI and this is really reaching but since the baseballs are clearly fake wouldn't there be fingerprints or DNA on the baseballs to run in a criminal database to see if anything pops up. Probably the forgers are wearing gloves so it wouldn't be possible but just a thought.

I don't think fingerprinting is an inexpensive endeavor. And even if there were fingerprints I don't think it would matter. If I sign Babe Ruth, and my prints are on the ball, and Coach's Jackwads give it an LOA, it is only their opinion. The scum needs to be caught red handed and it is difficult. Plus, you know how many Federal Investigators jump at opportunities like this? The answer is close to 0. Except for our few Agents investigating the hobby, who have done a great job so far, there are few takers for these kinds of cases. It is a sad reality. These things are important to us but then ISIS makes the news with another beheading.

[earlywynnfan]

what about the times they had sigs on money that was dated years and decades after the athlete died?

[drcy]

Several years ago there was a US currency bill 'signed' by a player and the Treasurer's name on the bill proved that the signatures had to be fake. The player died before the Treasurer had the position and, thus, before the bill was made. This was pointed out to them and they still let auction continue. That was as cut and dry an instance as one could get. And I assume that situation is detailed somewhere on this board's archives, as it was discussed at the time the auction was live.

[Klrdds]

FWIW I think for an investigation to happen you will need to get lucky and get an agent or higher up who has some background in the collectibles market . I don't think most agents understand the hobby or its intricacies . I think they feel that we are guys living in some sort of fantasy world with our hobby.

[RichardSimon]

A higher up in their area who is familiar with the hobby was contacted.
He referred this to a Federal investigator. After a period of time, during which it seemed something might happen, the investigation just kind of faded away .

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

A higher up in their area who is familiar with the hobby was contacted.
He referred this to a Federal investigator. After a period of time, during which it seemed something might happen, the investigation just kind of faded away .

I remember and it pissed me off!!!

[FourStrikes]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

A higher up in their area who is familiar with the hobby was contacted.
He referred this to a Federal investigator. After a period of time, during which it seemed something might happen, the investigation just kind of faded away .

Feds = bigger fish to fry...albeit for better or worse.

but it still sucks.

in the "real" world, I see we (as collectors) being only a drop of pi$$ in the yellow river of life.

JMO

DS

[mighty bombjack]

That Brown in the OP went for a grand?!?!

[Bcwcardz]

Originally Posted by Klrdds

FWIW I think for an investigation to happen you will need to get lucky and get an agent or higher up who has some background in the collectibles market . I don't think most agents understand the hobby or its intricacies . I think they feel that we are guys living in some sort of fantasy world with our hobby.

Read Operation Bullpen and it will give you insight on how one of these investigations goes. They did find a guy but it was obviously difficult for them. They busted a massive forgery ring and took a lot of people down but there is just too much of this crap out there to hit every little guy. All you can do is just not buy. I used to buy stuff from a LCS years ago and some stuff turned out to be fake and some real. Very disheartening.

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[Klrdds]

Originally Posted by Bcwcardz

Read Operation Bullpen and it will give you insight on how one of these investigations goes. They did find a guy but it was obviously difficult for them. They busted a massive forgery ring and took a lot of people down but there is just too much of this crap out there to hit every little guy. All you can do is just not buy. I used to buy stuff from a LCS years ago and some stuff turned out to be fake and some real. Very disheartening.

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As a 40 year collector I have extremely intimate knowledge of Operation Bullpen on the side of the good guys . That is all I can say .Believe me that was a long time coming but very welcomed .
CC is running a totally different operation . Back then the Feds had an interest in it .