E121 Ruth getting respect

[Leon]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

I both snagged and sold my G-Vg E121 Ruth about 20 years ago. Got all of $200 or so for it. I would still have it, but it was the version with Babe holding the bird next to the creepy little guy with the ill-fitting suit. I just couldn't stomach its weirdness. Maybe this version can still be found with a somewhat reasonable price tag.

Brian

The other versions, from a quick look just now, don't seem to have gone up on the wild ride. Kudos to those who have this throwing pose.

Maybe a W575-1 could be a substitute for a Ruth collector?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1922-W575-1-...QAAOSwaB5XqMPC

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[CharleyBrown]

And then there's this one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BABE-RUTH-19...4AAOSwMNxXbsj7

Someone got a great deal (and it looks like they flipped it via Probstein).

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by CharleyBrown

And then there's this one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BABE-RUTH-19...4AAOSwMNxXbsj7

Someone got a great deal (and it looks like they flipped it via Probstein).

Also looks like he bid on it.

[swarmee]

That should be enough to get Probstein to not allow his consignments or bids again... did you report it to Rick?

[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by swarmee

That should be enough to get Probstein to not allow his consignments or bids again... did you report it to Rick?

If I were that guy and just got the deal of the year at $2799... I'd probably be more than happy to buy it back for $5K (less consignment fees) if the sale didn't actually exceed that amount. He'd still be way ahead (maybe now out $3400 for a nice E121 Ruth) , and he would still have the card.

Its not like he entered a bidding war that drove the price.

[swarmee]

There sure are a lot of people who condone shilling on this site...

[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by swarmee

There sure are a lot of people who condone shilling on this site...

I'm not interested in getting into the full blown shilling debate, but I know I wouldn't want to sell that card for $3K or $5K, and would be more than happy to buy it back if the price stayed there. I don't think what this guy did manipulated the final price, nor did it appear to hook anyone into an artificial bidding war. Seems more like the hidden reserve thing. IMO, if he wins it back (at a still very low price), and pays for it, it's not that big a deal.

[orly57]

Originally Posted by Leon

The other versions, from a quick look just now, don't seem to have gone up on the wild ride. Kudos to those who have this throwing pose.

Maybe a W575-1 could be a substitute for a Ruth collector?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1922-W575-1-...QAAOSwaB5XqMPC

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The W575-1 is actually a much tougher card than the E-121. There are two versions, both of which are substantailly tougher than the caramel. There is a "L.F George Ruth" version and a R.F. "Babe" version (mine below). There are only three slabbed copies of this one.

[orly57]

Now all my pics are posting sideways. If anyone has any suggestions, a pm would be appreciated.

[itjclarke]

Sweet cards Orlando. I really like the "holding ball" pose. I got a couple lesser cost "subs" for that one.. Will add pics later.

Re- posting horizontal pics, I'm not IT guy, but are your JPGs upright prior to posting?

[Sean]

Can someone who knows more about this set explain why some cards say Babe Ruth and others say "Babe" Ruth? Are they considered different cards, or a variation?


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[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by Sean

Can someone who knows more about this set explain why some cards say Babe Ruth and others say "Babe" Ruth? Are they considered different cards, or a variation?


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Its a variation. There are Babe, "Babe", and George. Know many others here know more as to why. Think George is most scarce.

There are also, I believe 4 back variations in the series of 80, all of varying scarcity. If others don't do so first, I'll post a link to that thread. Some board members have done a lot of research on this set.

[brianp-beme]

On the board (and maybe the entire planet that we call Earth) Rhett has the best grasp of all the E121 issues, but the Series of 80 is rife with many variations, and I assume the parenthesis and non-parenthesis Ruth versions were due to their being in separate printing runs. However I do not remember reading any specific theories concerning this.

Brian

[Sean]

I notice that all the links to recent eBay sales are for cards that say "Babe". I assume then that this is the most common version?

And thanks guys for the previous answers.