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Old 07-30-2016, 06:30 PM
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I canceled about five years ago while SCD was still carrying 10-page spreads for the Coaches Corner auction house, which somehow managed to come up with a Babe Ruth/Lou Gehrig autographed baseball for sale every month. Those balls would sell for about $350.

Beyond that, I found the magazine to be way too cozy with advertisers in the industry it purportedly covered. The magazine portrayed Bill Mastro (now facing jail) as a God among Gods and every third "news" article was a puff piece about No. 1 advertiser Mr. Mint Alan Rosen.

Made me want to retch.
Overall, I have to agree with the above.

I got it until about four years ago. Then I woke up to how the articles were interwoven. Much to the concern of their advertisers.

No, not for me.
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Old 07-30-2016, 07:13 PM
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Overall, I have to agree with the above.

I got it until about four years ago. Then I woke up to how the articles were interwoven. Much to the concern of their advertisers.

No, not for me.
Much has changed in the hobby and SPORTS COLLECTORS DIGEST since four years ago. All Coaches Corner advertising is long gone. T. S. O'Connell is long gone. Alan Rosen is now gone from SCD. The magazine never shied away from reporting the investigation and conviction of Bill Mastro. It is not illegal nor unethical to try to back your advertisers, though I do not recall that SCD ran articles lauding Coaches Corner. When it finally became known they were selling bogus memorabilia, they were dropped, period.

SPORTS COLLECTORS DIGEST has essentially had to reinvent themselves almost several times in this swiftly changing hobby world. As under-staffed as they are, they are doing rather well, and the free-lance articles keep coming, with many of them being pertinent and very worthwhile reading.

If you choose not to forgive them for past transgressions, that's your choice. I hope you're as tough on yourself as you are on them. If you won't give them another chance, maybe that's just as well---for you and them.

Me? I'm sticking by them! I like what I'm seeing and reading! ---Brian Powell

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I posted when this thread started that I still get it and enjoy some of the articles, particularly by Lemke and Vrechek.

But a couple issues back they ran a rather long article by some guy ( do not remember name) who gave a lengthy opinion about why two bats thought in the hobby to be genuine, the bat used by Ruth to hit the first home run in Yankee stadium and a bat used by DiMaggio during the hitting streak, were likely not genuine. I know nothing about bats other than what I learned at the Louisville Slugger bat museum, and do not collect them. But I found the article interesting

In the next issue Bartsch had a very short note saying he had failed to adequately fact check the article and author. Nothing more about what he had discovered wrong with the multi page article/analysis. Pretty disappointing. In his defense I think his resources are slim there these days.

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I was a long time subscriber for many years through the mid 1990's, but let my subscription stop. I have decided to subscribe again recently, since it was very affordable. Obviously, it is not as good as it had been, but I find it a somewhat (a little) useful nowadays.
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When it finally became known they were selling bogus memorabilia, they were dropped, period.
While I am a big fan of yours, Brian, I believe this statement to be factually untrue. SCD took Coaches Corner's money for years AFter they had been exposed as a fraudulent business. It was years.....A lot of people really got turned off by that. We talked about their ads for YEARS on this board and nothing was done about not letting them advertise.
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Old 08-04-2016, 12:07 PM
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While I am a big fan of yours, Brian, I believe this statement to be factually untrue. SCD took Coaches Corner's money for years AFter they had been exposed as a fraudulent business. It was years.....A lot of people really got turned off by that. We talked about their ads for YEARS on this board and nothing was done about not letting them advertise.
I sit corrected, Leon. Maybe it's time I read more, and shut up more. I would sure like to sell more books, however!

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While I am a big fan of yours, Brian, I believe this statement to be factually untrue. SCD took Coaches Corner's money for years AFter they had been exposed as a fraudulent business. It was years.....A lot of people really got turned off by that. We talked about their ads for YEARS on this board and nothing was done about not letting them advertise.
As a matter of fact, this board truly helped to eradicate CC from SCD. When F&W realized the PR Debacle with a big group of vintage collectors, they knew the money CC was giving them was not worth the outrage from this community.

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As a matter of fact, this board truly helped to eradicate CC from SCD. When F&W realized the PR Debacle with a big group of vintage collectors, they knew the money CC was giving them was not worth the outrage from this community.

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Rich, I wonder if the Coach's Corner controversy and eradication of said firm had anything to do with T. S. O'Connell's departure from SCD.

As Al Richter pointed out, current SCD editor Tom Bartsch has very few resources to turn to, on top of having to undertake extreme multi-tasking at the magazine. I'm very proud of Tom Bartsch and the hard work he does at SCD. ---Brian Powell

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Brian:

I don't even want to venture on that -- that is between TS and F & W and that information can stay private

However, what is without question is Tom B has a brutally tough job in both editing SCD and being responsible for the Standard Catalog (even if just Vintage and even if not much is being changed).

We have communicated a couple of times when I sent him my show listings and he is always professional and helpful and as I explained -- with Beckett I can list my shows on line and they can basically go right in. For F&W the process is more cumbersome and some easily done technological work can help in that

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I don't even want to venture on that -- that is between TS and F & W and that information can stay private

QUITE RIGHT, RICH. WELL SAID. AT LEAST COACH'S CORNER IS LONG GONE FROM SCD.

However, what is without question is Tom B has a brutally tough job in both editing SCD and being responsible for the Standard Catalog (even if just Vintage and even if not much is being changed).

GLAD FOR ANOTHER VOICE OF UNDERSTANDING ABOUT TOM BARTSCH'S TOUGH JOB OF FILLING HALF A DOZEN NOW-EMPTY SHOES.

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