Question for the group regarding Hall of Fame eligibility....

[darkhorse9]

Originally Posted by the 'stache

I have to disagree; Mickey Lolich is not a Hall of Famer. He was a pretty good pitcher for a while, but compared to his peers, he just doesn't measure up. And there's certainly nothing historic about his pitching performance. That's overstating it a bit.

His 7 year WAR peak is 38.6. There are 50 starters in the Hall, and they average a 50.3 7 year peak WAR. Lolich is ranked 112th all-time as a starter by JAWS. And, his career ERA + is 108. 100 is Major League average.

Lolich certainly deserves more consideration than Jack Morris.

[skil55voy]

A little humor: Terry Forster, highest batting average for anyone playing in over 500 games.

Games 620
AB 78
Runs 7
Hits 31
2B 4
3B 1
HR 0
RBI 7
BB 2
SO 9
Avg .397
OBP .413
SLG .467

[bravos4evr]

Originally Posted by darkhorse9

Lolich certainly deserves more consideration than Jack Morris.

I agree, Lolich has Morris beaten in WAR (64.6-55.8) ERA (3.44- 3.90) and in pretty much every other pertinent stat.

Morris was a good pitcher, but not nearly HOF material (and the small sample size of a couple of good world series starts isn't enough to get him in)

Heck Lolich is 28th in fWAR since 1920 among all starters and considering his innings pitched is in good company for HOF consideration.


Minoso was a good player, but career length hurts him a fair bit. He only had 10 years of positive contribution (yet played for 4 more not counting his "decades" stunt.) I have a tough time supporting someone with less than 60 WAR unless injury or tragedy shortened their career.