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Old 07-28-2016, 09:07 AM
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Ha! The sgc one probably sold for $80, while the PSA sold for $180!
Close on the PSA > 186.50

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1965-Topps-2...p2047675.l2557

... but SGC came out ahead, or rather the better card did. > 293.88

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1965-Topps-P...p2047675.l2557
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Old 07-28-2016, 09:50 AM
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My '52 Topps Mantle (SGC 4) didn't meet the requirements for a PSA 4 crossover. $700 down the drain...But...it looks better than most PSA 5s.

That is absolutely at least a PSA 4 per their descriptions:

Very Good-Excellent
A PSA VG-EX 4 card's corners may be slightly rounded. Surface wear is noticeable but modest. The card may have light scuffing or light scratches. Some original gloss will be retained. Borders may be slightly off-white. A light crease may be visible. Centering must be 85/15 or better on the front and 90/10 or better on the back.





They couldn't even tell me why it didn't cross. Spent $700...gave me my card back in SGC holder and didn't even have the courtesy to explain why. Had to call 3 times.
If a big customer that spends a lot of money with them submitted it - then I'm sure it's going to cross over. Politics for sure. Shouldn't be that way, but it is.

If anything, they are inconsistent snobs...especially when you compare old labels vs the new label harsh standards. Doing a 180 to protect current high graded cards.

The current 3s and 4s look better than the older 5s and 6s in many instances. I just want consistency.

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Old 07-28-2016, 12:43 PM
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Sure looks like a lock for minimum 4 grade. Anything more than a hairline crease on one side? Or paper loss or surface indent? $700. - ouch! I feel for ya.
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Old 07-28-2016, 12:50 PM
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Sure looks like a lock for minimum 4 grade. Anything more than a hairline crease on one side? Or paper loss or surface indent? $700. - ouch! I feel for ya.
Absolutely no creases or paper loss. They said it was the corners after I called for a third time.

Yes ouch! It was cash too, made it hurt that much more. You could've fried an egg on my forehead on the first 10 minutes of the drive home I was so pissed...
But I was more mad at myself that I just got hustled and played like an idiot...the kid had no idea why it didn't cross when he gave it back to me and "the head grader already left", he didn't even have any notes to give me. Take my money fine...but at least have the common courtesy to explain why! Brutal. Calling them back and being on hold to find out why it didn't cross made me feel like a bigger idiot, because they already have my money and it didn't cross over, so really it didn't matter.

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Old 07-28-2016, 01:44 PM
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I've found that in general (but not always the case), PSA is more lenient with paper loss and SGC is more lenient with tobacco stains when it comes to T206s in grades GD to EX.
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Old 07-28-2016, 04:26 PM
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If PSA gave that card a '3' grade, it would set a record price for a '3'. That card looks a lot better than a '3'!
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