eBay auctions

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Bigb13

I guess so brother why you have a problem? How can a post go bad? Pete joins in.

well u gotta admit it's ironic that many of your complaints about ebay were similar to complaints board members had about your attempted sale. thats all!

[Bigb13]

The Cobb is a rare card I am not talking about rare pre war yes but not rare. Why do you have to start trouble? Do you think you're funny?

[deeg23]

Yes, it is quite annoying seeing all of those overpriced listings! I pretty much put everything in my watch list I could be interested in even if it is overpriced because why not! Sometimes they lower the price once it ends, sometimes once it ends they switch to auction format with a lower starting price, and sometimes there's an eBay bucks promotion (like today!!) where it makes it more realistic. Sometimes I like to just keep an eye on it to see if it sells. Like Steve pointed out, it doesn't cost anything so might as well!

[VoodooChild]

I very rarely check BIN's anymore. Maybe one a month to add a few "reasonably" prices ones to my watch list for when there are eBay Buck promotions. I'll also check right before I'm about to place a bid on a card just to make sure there's not a nicer BIN for around the same price (which every once in a while, there actually is).

[TheNightmanCometh]

Originally Posted by VoodooChild

I very rarely check BIN's anymore. Maybe one a month to add a few "reasonably" prices ones to my watch list for when there are eBay Buck promotions. I'll also check right before I'm about to place a bid on a card just to make sure there's not a nicer BIN for around the same price (which every once in a while, there actually is).

I'm with you. I rarely check BINs. I have lists saved in folders that are prompted to show only auctions; I bypass BINs altogether.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

well I switched from auctions to BIN's almost exclusively a few years back and my business has grown rapidly since that time. I think my prices are reasonable, I am almost always the best price on ebay at my starting price and I accept offers on 90% of my listings. I am never insulted by an offer, even when it's under half what I'm asking. I tend to just turn those down instead of counter-offering, but it doesn't hurt my feelings or something stupid like that.

I have a bunch of prewar going up over the next few days, I offer a PSA gradability guarantee. Everything I sell (unless otherwise stated) is guaranteed to receive a numerical grade from PSA. Look at my listings and send me a PM if you think my BIN's are insane, I'd be curious to hear from a knowledgeable group like N54 members!.

http://stores.ebay.com/Aquarian-Sports-Cards

[Sean]

I almost never get cards through ebay BIN unless it's a card that I really need it, which is rare. I prefer to buy cards in auctions, ebay or otherwise.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

well I switched from auctions to BIN's almost exclusively a few years back and my business has grown rapidly since that time. I think my prices are reasonable, I am almost always the best price on ebay at my starting price and I accept offers on 90% of my listings. I am never insulted by an offer, even when it's under half what I'm asking. I tend to just turn those down instead of counter-offering, but it doesn't hurt my feelings or something stupid like that.

I have a bunch of prewar going up over the next few days, I offer a PSA gradability guarantee. Everything I sell (unless otherwise stated) is guaranteed to receive a numerical grade from PSA. Look at my listings and send me a PM if you think my BIN's are insane, I'd be curious to hear from a knowledgeable group like N54 members!.

http://stores.ebay.com/Aquarian-Sports-Cards

I know of one seller who has prices better than you on Ebay!

[clydepepper]

As long as they also have OBO available, I will continue to offer what I think the card is worth. Of course, that strategy has been working less and less lately.

It is depressing if sellers hang onto their unrealistic expectations...of course, it only takes one idiot willing to pay the BIN...to keep things out-of-order.

I thought at least this week those same idiots would have something to distract them like making speeches, etc.

[Sean]

Careful with the political comments. You'll get this thread locked.

[ls7plus]

You would think that when a seller has 10-15 people watching an item (can you say BVG Metropolitan Studios Dizzy Dean rookie?), with only a BIN, that the seller would realize the asking price is out of line with the card, due to condition issues (significant paper loss on the front of the Dean card) or otherwise (the Dean rookie has been reprinted, and I don't know how good the reprints are). At that point, the reasonable conclusion should be that the faithful watchers are waiting for the item to be put up for auction, but instead of doing that, the seller just relists it for the same price endlessly, month after month. Just seems quite clear that someone doesn't get it. Same with the 1954-56 Spic and Span Aaron--an "8" went in the $800.00 range at auction very recently (admittedly, it was somewhat dark in tone), and the seller keeps listing and relisting a "6" for $1499.00, over and over and over and over...Enough already! Put it up for auction and let's see what these items are actually worth!

Just my 25 cents worth,

Larry

PS: I will buy a really rare item I've been searching for which I believe is overpriced at the BIN if the price is in the right ballpark, though perhaps in the bleachers rather than the box seats behind the plate.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Sean

Careful with the political comments. You'll get this thread locked.

Yes, political commentary will get a thread shut down as fast as anything. Especially with the divisive nature of what is going on. Let's leave the politics for other sites. Some of my best hobby friends have opposite views of mine (though I don't understand how ) and we can discuss in person, or away from this forum, if need be. Thanks everyone!!

As for the subject, it takes more than a several yr old listing to get me riled up....

and speaking or BIN's this one was up for only a few hours before I snapped it up... Ebay is a treasure trove if you have unlimited time to wade through the poop. (I might lose money on it but at least I have another Clemente)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1960-61-Topp...p2047675.l2557

[buymycards]

Last year I saw many great deals from eBay sellers right before the National and I was able to pick up some items for my collection. I figured that people were trying to raise some bucks to fund their National trip.

I haven't noticed it happening so far this year, but we still have a while before the National.

Rick

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

well u gotta admit it's ironic that many of your complaints about ebay were similar to complaints board members had about your attempted sale. thats all!

Its a different situation because a price is always listed on ebay from the get go.


As far as BIN's, if the seller just wanted auction price he would of just listed it at auction price..so i understand 20/30% more. But when you see the big cards jump in price everyone is running to BIns that are all of the sudden 'cheap' at least it appears...

[Snapolit1]

Scott - I've seen your posts here but have to confess last night was the first time I checked our your eBay store. Very cool variety of stuff. Unlike some niche sellers, your stuff is all over the place. Sure I will pick something before long.

[pokerplyr80]

I find no reason to put a BIN listing in my watch list. I watch auctions. If I see a card I'm interested in with a BIN I either buy it, make an offer, or move on. Once in a while I will make an offer even if the price is unreasonable. It's pretty rare that a deal gets made in such a case, but it has happened.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Well I'm still pretty new here. My biggest problem with my ebay store is keeping it stocked. I list every item individually so that you get a thorough description of every item. I peaked at 550 items, I'm down to 400ish right now and I have thousands to list. Tons of prewar too. Complete sets etc... Glad you liked my store, it must be succeeding for a reason, and even in a marketplace that is apparently hostile to fixed price stores.

As for some of the complaining on the buyer's end ITT, I can't speak for all sellers, but for me this is a business. It does me no good to pay for a store ($50/month) and not make sales. When I do have over 500 items I then pay listing fees as well, so it does me no good to overprice items so that they sit for a year. If I relist a 30 day item more than a few times I start reevaluating my price. I also can't imagine predicating an entire store on hoping enough suckers stumble by to pay inflated prices to keep me in business. There have been lots of ideas floated in this thread as ways to, in effect, punish sellers who have practices with which you disagree. Isn't not spending your money with them all the necessary punishment? Unless it's just a bunch of rich weirdos costing themselves money for no reason, the free market will eventually sort out the issue. Just my 2¢

[Luke]

Yeah, punishing sellers for overpricing shouldn't really be the goal. Ebay should want to create a fun buying environment for its customers. Right now it feels predatory to a lot of people.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

I keep beating this poor horse's corpse. Vote with your money.

One of the first people to welcome me here was a regular customer of mine. I didn't even know he was a member. I have very loyal customers and I assume that means I have a "fun buying environment."

It's a mass marketplace, you're never going to be able to regulate it into a "fun buying environment" because that means too many different things to too many different people. "Predatory" sellers only succeed if buyers keep rewarding them. If I feel someone is predatory I simply don't buy from them. I have a shit list of guys who sell counterfeits as reprints, rest assured I will never do business with them, and yes Ebay should in fact enforce rules they have in place, THAT may help it feel more "fun", but I can't imagine making rules to solve most of the problems people are discussing here. If you go to the mall you have a choice between Kohl's and Nordstrom's. You may even find the identical item in both stores at widely different prices, does that mean the mall needs to pass rules make Nordstrom's more "fun"?

[Luke]

It sounds like you think you're disagreeing with people. Not buying from sellers with outrageous prices seems pretty straight-forward. I think everyone is with you on that.