If this Jackie is a 4, is mine a 5?

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by glynparson

id be shocked if a straight 3 and at lower grades half points are far easier to guess from my experience than high half grades. I submit around 10,000 cards a year i am pretty comfortable with my guesses.

just saying theres a 10% chance basically of any grade being a half grade compared to the full grade looking at the POP reports (including the PSA 3 Jackie at issue), yes i know half grades havent been around forever.

Still, if someone told me im going to get a 5.5 to a 6 for example, that really doesnt leave margin for error if the card gets graded a 5. i would just say 5-6 to avoid a disappointment from the submitter to be on the safe side even if i have experience submitting a million cards giving the POP reports of how rare half grades are

[JustinD]

With the PSA grading basically all over the map on the lower grades I would guess a 3-4, but hell you never know submit enough times and you may get higher.

No matter what, it is a wise idea to slab all of your top cards for insurance reasons like Bill mentioned as it does help solidify a comparable value for adjusters who might be all over the map.

It's likely that the Mantle with the large amount of paper loss will only get an "auth" grade, but that is better than arguing with an unknowing adjuster that it is legit and valuable after a disaster. After a fire or flood, the last thing anyone needs is additional frustration.

[the 'stache]

You also have to consider that population reports aren't accurate gauges of what's happening with grading now. They are cumulative. PSA has been grading cards for quite a while now, and half grades are a relatively new phenomenon. Of course there are going to be more cards with full point grades.

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

just saying theres a 10% chance basically of any grade being a half grade compared to the full grade looking at the POP reports (including the PSA 3 Jackie at issue), yes i know half grades havent been around forever.

Still, if someone told me im going to get a 5.5 to a 6 for example, that really doesnt leave margin for error if the card gets graded a 5. i would just say 5-6 to avoid a disappointment from the submitter to be on the safe side even if i have experience submitting a million cards giving the POP reports of how rare half grades are

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by the 'stache

You also have to consider that population reports aren't accurate gauges of what's happening with grading now. They are cumulative. PSA has been grading cards for quite a while now, and half grades are a relatively new phenomenon. Of course there are going to be more cards with full point grades.

Yes i stated that already in my opinion that i know half grades have not been around forever, however people have resubmitted cards from the pre-half grade times with the hope of a better grade including a half grade so it is not like every card graded before the half grades started never get the opportunity for a regrade (and then they would change the POP report on those)

Just check out the POP reports...its normaly 10% half grade versus full grades, you also figure only the best examples are re-submitted with the hope of the bump to the half grade better


Plus just check what happened in 2014 which i assume was after half grades were allowed for ALL Baseball cards graded by PSA

http://www.psacard.com/pop/baseball-cards/2014/118266

PSA 8 2009
PSA 8.5 301

PSA 7 389
PSA 7.5 39

PSA 6 176
PSA 6.5 11

PSA 5 71
PSA 5.5 2 !!!!!

The half grades look about the same representation in 2014 as they do in 1952 Topps, so it does appear whether its pre-half grade times or post, its extremely hard to predict half grades whn its only going to happen around 10 percent of the time. I would rather give someone a range of 3-4 than 3.5-4 given all of the POP stats..

[irv]

Originally Posted by JustinD

With the PSA grading basically all over the map on the lower grades I would guess a 3-4, but hell you never know submit enough times and you may get higher.

No matter what, it is a wise idea to slab all of your top cards for insurance reasons like Bill mentioned as it does help solidify a comparable value for adjusters who might be all over the map.

It's likely that the Mantle with the large amount of paper loss will only get an "auth" grade, but that is better than arguing with an unknowing adjuster that it is legit and valuable after a disaster. After a fire or flood, the last thing anyone needs is additional frustration.

Thanks, Justin!

Not sure I'll slab all of my cards but it has been suggested before that I should definitely get my all high number/high value cards slabbed, which is good advice based on what I have learned here since joining.

My personal choice to get this done is to actually take a trip/vacation and have then done during that time or while I wait so to speak.

I think this is best as it will alleviate a lot of the concerns/costs I have with shipping, money, getting lost in the mail etc.

Just don't know when the time will come, but it is something I am considering this coming winter.