Maris- why is he under appreciated

[Neal]

Maris is all over Cooperstown .... just not as a plaque on the wall.

Koufax became great because of the move to the Coliseum and Dodger Stadium, not steroids .....

[packs]

If you look at cards of Maris before and after the record you can clearly see the toll it took on him. He was under constant death threats. That is not a media creation.

[KCRfan1]

Originally Posted by Neal

Maris is all over Cooperstown .... just not as a plaque on the wall.

Koufax became great because of the move to the Coliseum and Dodger Stadium, not steroids .....

Koufax had to develop in the majors since he never was in the minors. He was also used very sporadically the first 4 or 5 years in his career. That changed in 1961 when he received regular turns on the mound.

He had great stuff in college at Cincinnati, but was wild. The arm was always there, it wasn't the stadium that made Koufax great.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by KCRfan1

Koufax had to develop in the majors since he never was in the minors. He was also used very sporadically the first 4 or 5 years in his career. That changed in 1961 when he received regular turns on the mound.

He had great stuff in college at Cincinnati, but was wild. The arm was always there, it wasn't the stadium that made Koufax great.

Supposedly Koufax made a quantum leap when Larry Sherry urged him to slow down his delivery after a particularly bad streak of wildness.

[KCRfan1]

+1

Walter Alston really yanked Koufax around. He was a manager who played veterans and didn't care for a bonus baby in Koufax.