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[JustCollectVP]

Originally Posted by botn

I emailed you after your first post and told you I was not "litigator". Why would I email you directly to address your very disparaging post about me if I were able to defend myself there? You are full of it. And 6 years ago or not, you were incredibly reckless.

I have not said anything about the company who employs you now but your refusal to speak about the fraud which took place while you were a senior grader at SGC for several years other than to absolve yourself of any wrong doing or responsibility speaks volumes to the person you are today.

Fraud is a word that you have used, not I.

I am through with this area of discussion.

[botn]

Originally Posted by JustCollectVP

Fraud is a word that you have used, not I.

I am through with this area of discussion.

SGC will not honor their guaranty for cards graded during a time in which you were a senior grader-- a time where by your own admission, SGC holdered bad cards. If it is not fraud then what is it? You continued to work there knowing bad cards were being holdered. You did nothing with this information and continue to dismiss yourself from what took place. Of course that seems to be ok with you because bad cards from all grading services get holdered. You have a convenient explanation for everything.

[Peter_Spaeth]

When people volunteer a little information, then refuse to answer questions and act indignant, that often doesn't work out too well. Just an observation.
adver
Anyhow, back to the advertisement, as apparently no more information is forthcoming.

[begsu1013]

scott,

as primarily a psa guy and considering a recent sgc purchase was made, can i get just one piece of vital information that shouldn't cause a stir or implicate anyone...

this merkle tenure and guarantee reneging is news to me.

is there a certain set of flip numbers or perhaps a certain looking flip style that we should be on the look out for to protect ourselves?

or simply what are the determining signs of one of these suspicious or questionable cards?

if you can shed any insight on this for me i would certainly appreciate it....


congrats on the plank find and despite the detours would call this thread a success.

(and no one is perfect here, guys. myself included)

[begsu1013]

and this reminds me of the tommy boy scene:

if you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed, i will. ive got plenty of time.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by begsu1013

scott,

as primarily a psa guy and considering a recent sgc purchase was made, can i get just one piece of vital information that shouldn't cause a stir or implicate anyone...

this merkle tenure and guarantee reneging is news to me.

is there a certain set of flip numbers or perhaps a certain looking flip style that we should be on the look out for to protect ourselves?

or simply what are the determining signs of one of these suspicious or questionable cards?

if you can shed any insight on this for me i would certainly appreciate it....


congrats on the plank find and despite the detours would call this thread a success.

(and no one is perfect here, guys. myself included)

Deleted, apparently posted information was wrong.

[JustCollectVP]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

(1) SG on the front(1998)
(2) SGC on the front, but no 1-10 grade(99-04)
(3) SGC on the front with 1-10 grade + gold label on the back(05-08)
(4) SGC on the front with 1-10 grade + SGC pressed into the back(09-current)

This was posted pre the most recent flip obviously. Merkel pretty sure was through 04.

Actually, Merkle was gone in 1999.

The SG logo was used until late '98/early '99. The change to the SGC logo was near the very end of Joe's tenure and the dual grade at the end of '99 was after he was gone.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by JustCollectVP

Actually, Merkle was gone in 1999.

The SG logo was used until late '98/early '99. The change to the SGC logo was near the very end of Joe's tenure and the dual grade at the end of '99 was after he was gone.

OK.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

When people volunteer a little information, then refuse to answer questions and act indignant, that often doesn't work out too well. Just an observation.
adver
Anyhow, back to the advertisement, as apparently no more information is forthcoming.

Where are all those pro sgc posters now that talk about and show PSA graded cards that were overgraded etc....

[slipk1068]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Where are all those pro sgc posters now that talk about and show PSA graded cards that were overgraded etc....

PSA 8 Honus Wagner. Nuff Ced.

[DeanH3]

Originally Posted by slipk1068

PSA 8 Honus Wagner. Nuff Ced.

+1. Let's not mention WWAG either.

[glynparson]

To just scream Wagner about Psa people can scream Doyle about sgc because just like sgc has a totally different regime so does Psa from the days of the Wagner. It was also a calculated business decision in my opinion and it would be hard to argue that it was not a successful decision. In fact an owner of a chief Psa competitor once told me before he owned the company he now does that he would have slabbed it at the time because of all the press it got them. I can remeber a tony galovich article where he talked about how it only got an 8 but was sold to Gretzky McNall as mint and how they should have asked for some money back. Yell about current issues but talking about something from 24 years ago at a company with entirely different graders a different president and changed from a privately owned company to a publicly owned doesn't really hold any water anymore.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by slipk1068

PSA 8 Honus Wagner. Nuff Ced.

http://www.t206museum.com/page/periodical_5.html