We just purchased a "FRESH" T206 Eddie Plank and are BUYING Vintage Cards! ***

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by Leon

This thread should have been labeled as a paid ad and that was my mistake. Otherwise, They will continue just the way they have been. My apologies if they offend anyone but I don't think they are that big of a deal. It's not like there are a lot of them. But of course, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Thanks for the comments and thanks to JustCollect for not only being good hobby friends of 15yrs + but also part of the community as an advertiser and participant. I hope it continues for multiples of the next 15 yrs.

You know how much I love the forum, Leon, and I'm all for ads to support it. I hope it makes a lot of money, I'm a capitalist all the way. But why isn't this post under the B/S/T section? Even if you label them, I think mixing paid posts in with the heart of the forum itself is a big mistake, and will diminish both.

[cardcountry]

I have sold quite a few cards to Scott and Leighton at the past few nationals. Every year I enjoy chatting with them- they are very knowledgable and have a great eye for cards. In my experience they have always paid very fairly, and high quality cards for the grade were treated as such. I'd be happy to sell more cards to them or refer customers to them, as I know they would treat them fairly.

Jeff

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by cardcountry

I have sold quite a few cards to Scott and Leighton at the past few nationals. Every year I enjoy chatting with them- they are very knowledgable and have a great eye for cards. In my experience they have always paid very fairly, and high quality cards for the grade were treated as such. I'd be happy to sell more cards to them or refer customers to them, as I know they would treat them fairly.

Jeff

I'm glad you have good dealings with them. My dealings with Scott has been the exact polar opposite - very UNPROFESSIONAL. For those who choose to deal with them, more power to you. I can only give my personal experience with him.

[JustCollectVP]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

I'm glad you have good dealings with them. My dealings with Scott has been the exact polar opposite - very UNPROFESSIONAL. For those who choose to deal with them, more power to you. I can only give my personal experience with him.

Bobby:

Our difference were on the CU boards and had NOTHING to do with business and had nothing to do with Just Collect. I called you out for several foolish and outlandish statements that you made and the facts demonstrated you were inaccurate. You were upset by that and complained to CU moderators. It is part of life and one that I didn't bother with anymore. Just because we didn't agree doesn't give you the right to make such a bold and outlandish statement challenging both my credibility and that of the company that I work for.

On the business side, I have never done a single business transaction with you personally and I highly doubt that you have had any negative dealings with Just Collect. I challenge you to provide one shred of evidence to suggest that I or Just Collect have EVER been unprofessional with you in ANY business transaction.

In the absence of any evidence, I would expect you to amend or retract your statement.

[bbcemporium]

I've had many transactions with Just Collect, and have nothing but good to say about Scott and Leighton. The hobby would be well served to have more dealers like this.

[RCMcKenzie]

I've bought cards from Just Collect on eBay and have always been happy with the deals I've had with them. I do get a lot of emails from them, which is annoying, but okay. I don't see how calling customers "sophomoric", and using words I have to look up like "advertorial", and going tete a tete with the usual suspects on here helps promote the cause. I can say I liked this thread more than the Ali thread...Rob

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by bbcemporium

I've had many transactions with Just Collect, and have nothing but good to say about Scott and Leighton. The hobby would be well served to have more dealers like this.

I guess you don't know the whole story then and the truth behind how they operate "behind the scenes". I am not alone in this, as I have received a PM from someone who was similarly abused by him.

And I wasn't referring to CU boards. The CU boards was like the Wild West. I get that. I was referring to postings on another board which I was not a member of and had no opportunity to defend myself. Posting people's personal information is NEVER cool! EVER! I don't know what made you think it was, but it isn't. Myself and my family did not appreciate it. That is where I have to draw the line.

[JustCollectVP]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

I guess you don't know the whole story then and the truth behind how they operate "behind the scenes". I am not alone in this, as I have received a PM from someone who was similarly abused by him.

And I wasn't referring to CU boards. The CU boards was like the Wild West. I get that. I was referring to postings on another board which I was not a member of and had no opportunity to defend myself. Posting people's personal information is NEVER cool! EVER! I don't know what made you think it was, but it isn't. Myself and my family did not appreciate it. That is where I have to draw the line.

Bobby, I'm going to make this simple. Please provide one shred of evidence. A screenshot, an email, a PM a thread to substantiate one word of your allegations and hearsay. I have no personal information of yours nor have I ever shared it. The fact that someone posted something that you posted publicly to your Facebook account (not me, by the way), isn't a violation of your personal information. Making up stories about it and blaming others not involved is juvenile.

Just because I called you out on CU and made you look foolish by citing FACTS and TRUTH doesn't allow you the right to LIE and DEFAME me or my character. Even worse is suggesting publicly that Just Collect is also complicit.

I have been in this hobby for more than 30 years and I've busted my ass to be above board and have gone beyond normal means to make things right.

However, I have also pissed off a few people by pointing out the silliness or idiocy of their opinions about the hobby when they spew inaccuracies, lies and false information. If this was a damning characteristic, many on this board would be Hell-bound.

I don't need to make this a pissing contest. I don't have any interest in challenging you other than making certain that your personal dislike for me doesn't supersede the fact that you are lying about me to satisfy some inner issues from having lost a few battles over hobby related discussions.

So, again, rather than provide lip service and hearsay, be specific. Prove your lies or they should be erased and an apology put up in their place.

[botn]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

I guess you don't know the whole story then and the truth behind how they operate "behind the scenes". I am not alone in this, as I have received a PM from someone who was similarly abused by him.

And I wasn't referring to CU boards. The CU boards was like the Wild West. I get that. I was referring to postings on another board which I was not a member of and had no opportunity to defend myself. Posting people's personal information is NEVER cool! EVER! I don't know what made you think it was, but it isn't. Myself and my family did not appreciate it. That is where I have to draw the line.

Scott did the same thing to me, Robert. I did not even know him and out of the blue he attacked me on the CU board making unfounded and inaccurate allegations when he knew I could not defend myself because I was not on the board.

For a guy with his background of being the head graded for SGC for Joe Merkel during a time when SGC graded more altered cards than legit cards, he has a lot of nerve acting like a bully. By the way, for those who don't know those are the old label SGC graded cards which SGC will not honor their guaranty.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Hankphenom

You know how much I love the forum, Leon, and I'm all for ads to support it. I hope it makes a lot of money, I'm a capitalist all the way. But why isn't this post under the B/S/T section? Even if you label them, I think mixing paid posts in with the heart of the forum itself is a big mistake, and will diminish both.

They have been going on for years, Hank. If they were in the BST section then they wouldn't get the traffic to justify the cost to advertise them. There won't be too many as there have been so few (and they have been going on for approximately 3-4 yrs) you haven't even noticed them . Take care....and yes, you and I have had some very good discussions concerning the forum and you were a true friend at the last National.....I appreciated that. take care..