Letter to george and other "haters"--ali (cont.)

[T206Collector]

Regardless of whether or not I read this thread, I believe it to be detrimental to the health of a vintage baseball card board to have the top two threads be completely OT. Just keeps diluting the only reason most of us come here. Carry on if you wish, but it doesn't advance the hobby.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Oh please. Hopefully the hobby and this board will survive.

[D. Bergin]

"Somebody please take away our pitchforks. We can't handle the responsibility."


LOL!

[JeremyW]

Just because you don't agree with someone doesn't mean that you can't respect their opinion or their right to express it. To me, that means that our fathers, grandfathers, & great-grandfathers fought for all Americans, black, white, etc. to express their opinions. I think, as Americans, we should should respect each others opinions, although we may disagree.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

Regardless of whether or not I read this thread, I believe it to be detrimental to the health of a vintage baseball card board to have the top two threads be completely OT. Just keeps diluting the only reason most of us come here. Carry on if you wish, but it doesn't advance the hobby.

Detrimental to the health of the board??
Please,,, skip the thread if you don't want to read it.
Please explain to me how it is detrimental when anyone can just skip it.

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

Please explain to me how it is detrimental when anyone can just skip it.

These threads - like threads about religion and politics - reduce people to their lowest common denominators. They predictably spawn hate and vitriol. They do nothing to advance the hobby. It's like animal porn - sure you could skip a thread titled "Monkeys f**g" - but the very existence of it on the board is like the graffiti on the walls of my train station in the morning. Hard not notice and always disappointing.

The reason any of us has a voice here is because of our collective interest in vintage baseball. To use that voice to spout ignorance and stupidity - or even intelligence - about anything else is a misuse of the board. By all means, carry on making the board a better place for collectors of vintage baseball cards. If you're posting about anything else kindly take it somewhere else. I submit that the reason people keep it here is because if they posted it anywhere else then no one would listen.

Why this thread - or it's sister - hasn't been locked is astounding to me, and frankly inconsistent with the historic basis for shutting many other useless threads down.

Carry on making the hobby a better place. You're all doing a terrific job here and should be really proud.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

These threads - like threads about religion and politics - reduce people to their lowest common denominators. They predictably spawn hate and vitriol. They do nothing to advance the hobby. It's like animal porn - sure you could skip a thread titled "Monkeys fucking" - but the very existence of it on the board is like the graffiti on the walls of my train station in the morning. Hard not notice and always disappointing.

The reason any of us has a voice here is because of our collective interest in vintage baseball. To use that voice to spout ignorance and stupidity - or even intelligence - about anything else is a misuse of the board. By all means, carry on making the board a better place for collectors of vintage baseball cards. If you're posting about anything else kindly take it somewhere else. I submit that the reason people keep it here is because if they posted it anywhere else then no one would listen.

Why this thread - or it's sister - hasn't been locked is astounding to me, and frankly inconsistent with the historic basis for shutting many other useless threads down.

Carry on making the hobby a better place. You're all doing a terrific job here and should be really proud.

When you own the board, Paul, you can make the rules as well as pronouncements about what is misuse or isn't. Until then, maybe you should just not read threads that don't appeal to your interest. And nice f-bomb.

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

When you own the board, Paul, you can make the rules as well as pronouncements about what is misuse or isn't. Until then, maybe you should just not read threads that don't appeal to your interest. And nice f-bomb.

Thanks. I love your Buzz Lightyear avatar. Toy Story is one of my favorite movies.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

Thanks. I love your Buzz Lightyear avatar. Toy Story is one of my favorite movies.

LOL thanks I am surprised nobody else commented. A tribute of course to the to infinity and beyond prices we are seeing these days.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

When you own the board, Paul, you can make the rules as well as pronouncements about what is misuse or isn't. Until then, maybe you should just not read threads that don't appeal to your interest. And nice f-bomb.

thanks, f bomb taken care of...

..Paul (and everyone else), no F bombs please.

[HRBAKER]

Threads like this make me miss Bruce. Just imagine.

[Kenny Cole]

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

Threads like this make me miss Bruce. Just imagine.

Lol, if you ever got some of the Brucii's pms or emails when he was displeased with you, hoping that your family would die horribly in a fire or your wife would be gang-raped, wonderful stuff like that, I'm not sure there is anything that could ever make you miss him. He remains the one exception to the rule I try (and occasionally fail) to follow about not saying anything bad about the dead.

[clydepepper]

Leon - This will be my last addition to this particular thread...and I do hope that you will consider locking it afterwards.

I just wanted to make a point about why I felt compelled to voice my opinions with regards to Mr. Ali.

Being born and raised in the Deep South, I have had to endure many stereotypes from other regions of the country that are assigned to me based on both my race (white) and my locale (Georgia).

Today's global economy makes for a very mobile populous, but I've stayed in the very close vicinity all my life. While I am still in the census majority, I was raised by a very good woman who instilled in me the correct set of values and common sense. She also taught me and my brother the value of seeing the bigger picture and making every attempt to be fair and just with everyone.

Now, Mom was a Dixie Democrat, but my brother have not gone that far. Instead we are both Republicans though we carry just enough of a liberal 'touch' to focus on the afore-mentioned bigger picture.

I watched as Mr. Clay transitioned into Mr. Ali, made note of most public statements he made and then saw him morph / mellow / mature into a very brave public personality who was not afraid to stand behind everything he said.

In a person's life, it is absolutely unfair to judge them before they have walked on this earth long enough to at least have a chance to reconstruct both their thinking and their actions.

God, Buddha, Ala...or any form worth worshiping, forgives and accepts the final product.

In this, I just wanted to let everyone on the forum know that I am not now nor was I ever one of the stereotypical southerners so many folks look down upon (and rightfully so).

All that being said - and thank you if you have read the entire 'novella' - I return you to your normal Bat Channel.

Thanks,
Raymond Culpepper

[forazzurri2axz]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

Regardless of whether or not I read this thread, I believe it to be detrimental to the health of a vintage baseball card board to have the top two threads be completely OT. Just keeps diluting the only reason most of us come here. Carry on if you wish, but it doesn't advance the hobby.

The hobby is in critical condition because of this thread. If 25 more people post, the RC Mantle will drop by $50,000 in whatever grade, and the Clemente RC will be put in bike spokes by the children of everyone here.
Whether one is in favor of this being locked by Leon opr not, I seriously doubt it's in the ingterest of saving the hobby!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Puulleease

[tiger8mush]

Originally Posted by forazzurri2axz

The hobby is in critical condition because of this thread. If 25 more people post, the RC Mantle will drop by $50,000 in whatever grade, and the Clemente RC will be put in bike spokes by the children of everyone here.
Whether one is in favor of this being locked by Leon opr not, I seriously doubt it's in the ingterest of saving the hobby!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Puulleease

You are very good at putting words in people's mouths