eBay Buyer has remorse - would should I do?

[hawaiian bam bam]

EBAY is now a buyers buffet! Buyers always win, sellers always lose ans ebay sees the buyer/customer is always right! scammers know whats up on ebay as there are a TON of scammers in our hobby and most of them are running game on ebay. many dirty tricks are out there. such as the buyer that starts a return and sends the envelope back "empty" ebay verifys is the buyer "sent" back the item. once the delivery confirmation shows delivered to the seller, the buyer wins the case! ebay does not and cannot verify that the envelope actually had the item in it! Yes, this is one scam currently on ebay. another is the ole switch and bait tactic! or the international buier that says "they never got the item! or the buyer that asks if you have tracking info on his item and when you say no, he responds the next day, "oh, i didnt get my package, i want my money back!" i can go on and on, but my point is we are living in a time where it is better to refund and block and move on as ebay wont back the seller anymore and the scammers and thieves know it!

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by hawaiian bam bam

EBAY is now a buyers buffet! Buyers always win, sellers always lose ans ebay sees the buyer/customer is always right! scammers know whats up on ebay as there are a TON of scammers in our hobby and most of them are running game on ebay. many dirty tricks are out there. such as the buyer that starts a return and sends the envelope back "empty" ebay verifys is the buyer "sent" back the item. once the delivery confirmation shows delivered to the seller, the buyer wins the case! ebay does not and cannot verify that the envelope actually had the item in it! Yes, this is one scam currently on ebay. another is the ole switch and bait tactic! or the international buier that says "they never got the item! or the buyer that asks if you have tracking info on his item and when you say no, he responds the next day, "oh, i didnt get my package, i want my money back!" i can go on and on, but my point is we are living in a time where it is better to refund and block and move on as ebay wont back the seller anymore and the scammers and thieves know it!

thats why consigning cards saves all that hassle...

[packs]

I'm probably in the minority but I'm glad eBay is the way it is now. I can't tell you how many times I used to get ripped off in the good old days when you paid for almost everything with a money order. It's easy to complete a transaction as a buyer: send the money. It was my experience that sellers had the issue keeping up their end. And back then your only recourse was to leave negative feedback.

[Mr. Zipper]

Originally Posted by packs

I'm probably in the minority but I'm glad eBay is the way it is now. I can't tell you how many times I used to get ripped off in the good old days when you paid for almost everything with a money order. It's easy to complete a transaction as a buyer: send the money. It was my experience that sellers had the issue keeping up their end. And back then your only recourse was to leave negative feedback.

I never had an issue with sending or receiving checks or money orders in the "old days."

About 15 years ago a buyer stiffed me for $1,100 using Paypal. I delivered and had delivery confirmation proof, but made the mistake of not getting a signature (at the buyer's request because he was never home, etc., etc.) He had high feedback and seemed legit. Naive on my part.

45 days after it was delivered and positive feedback was left, the buyer claimed it was unauthorized use of his account and Paypal reversed the transaction. The scammers know every loophole to play eBay and Paypal.

[turtleguy64]

does anyone wonder why ebay stock has fallen more than half from it's high ? it is avoided by investors.The anti-seller policy is one reason,in my mind.

[packs]

Originally Posted by Mr. Zipper

I never had an issue with sending or receiving checks or money orders in the "old days."

About 15 years ago a buyer stiffed me for $1,100 using Paypal. I delivered and had delivery confirmation proof, but made the mistake of not getting a signature (at the buyer's request because he was never home, etc., etc.) He had high feedback and seemed legit. Naive on my part.

45 days after it was delivered and positive feedback was left, the buyer claimed it was unauthorized use of his account and Paypal reversed the transaction. The scammers know every loophole to play eBay and Paypal.

Ok but you don't see the benefits of PayPal for buyer protection? eBay exists as a buyer-driven marketplace. If you can't protect the buyer, why would a buyer use your service?

[Mr. Zipper]

Originally Posted by packs

Ok but you don't see the benefits of PayPal for buyer protection? eBay exists as a buyer-driven marketplace. If you can't protect the buyer, why would a buyer use your service?

Of course buyer protection has value, but where do you draw the line? Paypal allows obvious scammers to play the system in a way that real credit card companies would not permit.

eBay is a "buyer driven marketplace." What is this supposed to mean? ALL retailers are buyer driven marketplaces. Yet I'd bet the buyer scam games aren't nearly as high at other retailers where consumers typically use real bank cards... and have to sign a witnessed affidavit if they are going to claim seller fraud.

[packs]

Buyer driven means it's a platform for people to buy things. There are other platforms that act as sales-driven mediums, such as conventions and product demos. That's not what eBay does. I hear you on the scams but nothing is safe from scams. I would think the overall percentage of people using PayPal to scam others is relatively low. So low that I'm sure PayPal sides with the buyer usually by default because the chances of something nefarious happening are negligible, except of course when it happens to you.