Ali near death (Ali has died at 74)

Originally Posted by NewEnglandBaseBallist

Media is now reporting that the cause of death was septic shock according to Ali's family.

As a CNA I can attest to "septic shock" being the most common cause of death in ICU's. Clinically speaking cause of death is probably septic shock due to complications from Parkinson's. When doctors say septic, it typically means tiny blood clots have formed which block oxygen and nutrients from reaching vital organs. I am sure he had the very best quality of care available.

[aaroncc]

Rip ali.......

[DerekMichael]

Not the best quality, but my family and I were fortunate enough to meet Ali at a book signing when I was very young. I was about 4 years old if I recall. He was always one of my Dad's greatest sports heroes and was a legend in our household. It is comforting to know that he is at peace.

The Greatest!

Derek

[jerrys]

Ali signing autographs at the 2003 NSCC. RIP.

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[George]

If I had to guess, I would think that no one who reponded to my post is a veteran. If you have any interest in the perspective of veterans like me, you may wish to read this..........

https://joebrunoonboxing.wordpress.c...is-not-a-hero/

If not, that's fine.

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[Billy5858]

Originally Posted by NewEnglandBaseBallist

George you are a colossal POS.

+1 I'm on this site because I love
baseball cards not to read some
BS hate piece. Go to Facebook and
post that crap

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by George

If I had to guess, I would think that no one who reponded to my post is a veteran. If you have any interest in the perspective of veterans like me, you may wish to read this..........

https://joebrunoonboxing.wordpress.c...is-not-a-hero/

If not, that's fine.

It takes as much if not more of a hero to stand up for what you believe in when virtually all oppose you and face the consequences than it does to play follow the leader without even considering the bigger picture.

Heroes can stand out FROM a crowd as well as IN a crowd.

I know a lot of veterans and live next to one of the largest military installations in the world, but it does not keep me from being an independent thinker.

I consider myself a conservative and revere what many veterans have sacrificed, but not all of them are heroes...or even good people (and that's before and after their service) ...so, again...independent thinking is the way to see things in proper perspective.

Radical views in either camp (conservative and liberal) are neither valid nor healthy in either the short or the long run.

...and Heroes come in all shapes, sizes, races, and religons...so take the blinders off and see things as they should be.


Raymond Culpepper
in Columbus, GA next to Fort Benning

[Billy5858]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

It takes as much if not more of a hero to stand up for what you believe in when virtually all oppose you and face the consequences than it does to play follow the leader without even considering the bigger picture.

Heroes can stand out FROM a crowd as well as IN a crowd.

I know a lot of veterans and live next to one of the largest military installations in the world, but it does not keep me from being an independent thinker.

I consider myself a conservative and revere what many veterans have sacrificed, but not all of them are heroes...or even good people (and that's before and after their service) ...so, again...independent thinking is the way to see things in proper perspective.

Radical views in either camp (conservative and liberal) are neither valid nor healthy in either the short or the long run.

...and Heroes come in all shapes, sizes, races, and religons...so take the blinders off and see things as they should be.


Raymond Culpepper
in Columbus, GA next to Fort Benning

Thanks...... Very even minded thoughtful
and intelligent response. Wish I had just
a little bit of your wisdom sir. I would be a
much better person

[frankbmd]

It's a bit of a stretch to say I knew Ali, but I knew him when I saw him.

In the early eighties during the "fitness" phase of my life, while jogging on Wilshire Blvd in Los Angeles not far from where Ali lived at the time, a convertible with the top down passed, a man in the back seat stood up and pointed in my direction and shouted "I want you", as if I was a fighter training to fight him. I waved and kept running. The man was definitely Ali.

Even in the best shape of my life, I was never able to float like a butterfly and sting like a bee.

[dgo71]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

It takes as much if not more of a hero to stand up for what you believe in when virtually all oppose you and face the consequences than it does to play follow the leader without even considering the bigger picture.

Heroes can stand out FROM a crowd as well as IN a crowd.

I know a lot of veterans and live next to one of the largest military installations in the world, but it does not keep me from being an independent thinker.

I consider myself a conservative and revere what many veterans have sacrificed, but not all of them are heroes...or even good people (and that's before and after their service) ...so, again...independent thinking is the way to see things in proper perspective.

Radical views in either camp (conservative and liberal) are neither valid nor healthy in either the short or the long run.

...and Heroes come in all shapes, sizes, races, and religons...so take the blinders off and see things as they should be.


Raymond Culpepper
in Columbus, GA next to Fort Benning

Well said! Independent thought is tough for the weak minded.

[forazzurri2axz]

Originally Posted by George

If I had to guess, I would think that no one who reponded to my post is a veteran. If you have any interest in the perspective of veterans like me, you may wish to read this..........

https://joebrunoonboxing.wordpress.c...is-not-a-hero/

If not, that's fine.

Your posts make me wish I could do to you what Ali did to Terrell

[Leon]

Originally Posted by George

If I had to guess, I would think that no one who reponded to my post is a veteran. If you have any interest in the perspective of veterans like me, you may wish to read this..........

https://joebrunoonboxing.wordpress.c...is-not-a-hero/

If not, that's fine.

Read the whole thing just now, Didn't change my mind one bit. I think what he did with the draft was a mistake. Whichever man hasn't made mistakes should take 2 steps forward. I prefer to put his whole life in perspective, and from that vantage point, he is still a hero to many. He had his own reasons for not wanting to go into the service. I can't say I blame him on some level due to the race situation back then. But he should have gone in like everyone else and he paid a price for not going.

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[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by George

If I had to guess, I would think that no one who reponded to my post is a veteran. If you have any interest in the perspective of veterans like me, you may wish to read this..........

https://joebrunoonboxing.wordpress.c...is-not-a-hero/

If not, that's fine.

I am a US Army veteran. And you are dead wrong. He had more guts than guys facing bullets in a horribly unjust civil war that we knew we were losing almost from the get go. And only stubborn politicians forced the unneeded deaths of 50,000 Americans and maybe 1,000,000 Vietnamese.
You can be more of a patriot if you question your government than if you just blindly follow it.
You have to separate your government from your country.