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Old 05-30-2016, 09:51 AM
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Thanks for the opinion guys. I also think that PSA 2 auction might also be BS, but it does show that centering carries a premium. That 3.5 has a crease and the 5's top to bottom isn't all that great. In the end, I'm very excited to be owning this card again. My collection took a huge hit when I purchased my 52 Mantle last year, as I had to sell off almost all my heavy hitters, including a 52T Mays, Robinson, & Campy on Net54 (along with my favorite Trouts) Now that the dust has settled - I'm slowly building it back up, although these spike in prices are making it tough.
That PSA 2 ( nice) sold for $800 on Ebay 2 months ago. Now is over $1900 on Probstein with 12 hrs to go??
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Old 05-30-2016, 09:56 AM
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Yes a little fishy lol. But I do see the prices going up. Even if you totally discard that auction
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Old 05-30-2016, 09:58 AM
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Yes a little fishy lol. But I do see the prices going up. Even if you totally discard that auction
i dont think its 'if' ...you can discard that auction ...
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i dont think its 'if' ...you can discard that auction ...
That is a great looking PSA 2. I don't think you can just write this one off as shill or fraudulent bidding. Dead centered and nice corners. It doesn't look like a 2.

As for the OPs card it's nice too. I'd say it has a chance at a PSA 5 and is worth an attempt at a cross.
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[QUOTE=pokerplyr80;1544678]That is a great looking PSA 2. I don't think you can just write this one off as shill or fraudulent bidding. Dead centered and nice corners. It doesn't look like a 2.

well its 2 bidders over the k price point...lets at least see 3 unique bidders..
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That is a great looking PSA 2. I don't think you can just write this one off as shill or fraudulent bidding. Dead centered and nice corners. It doesn't look like a 2.

well its 2 bidders over the k price point...lets at least see 3 unique bidders..
Im not saying you're right or wrong. Just that's the best looking Mays 2 I've seen and those two guys might be bidding accordingly.
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Im not saying you're right or wrong. Just that's the best looking Mays 2 I've seen and those two guys might be bidding accordingly.
the fact is only 2 guys means something..especially since one of them only bid 1700 in a 5 that sold for 2000 yesterday and was decent..

but yeah if theres one guy buying everything...it only takes one....but generally when i think 'market' value..im thinking about more than 1 guy. to avoid being burned if suddenly the one guy isnt buying anymore.
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That PSA 2 ( nice) sold for $800 on Ebay 2 months ago. Now is over $1900 on Probstein with 12 hrs to go??
Well, how many more bidders look at Probstein auctions over a regular Joe's auction?
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Well, how many more bidders look at Probstein auctions over a regular Joe's auction?
I don't think serious card collectors just search Probstein or PWCC. My searches
for card X include all average Joe's cards as well. I can't imagine anyone trying to find a specific card/ condition just looking at those auctions. As to whether or not serious bidders prefer to buy from those larger auctions- I can't say
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I don't think serious card collectors just search Probstein or PWCC. My searches
for card X include all average Joe's cards as well. I can't imagine anyone trying to find a specific card/ condition just looking at those auctions. As to whether or not serious bidders prefer to buy from those larger auctions- I can't say

right they are both on ebay....if its a whole different website that would different

with ebay buyer protection...peiople type 'mays 1952 psa' you are going to get everyones listings
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I don't think serious card collectors just search Probstein or PWCC. My searches
for card X include all average Joe's cards as well. I can't imagine anyone trying to find a specific card/ condition just looking at those auctions. As to whether or not serious bidders prefer to buy from those larger auctions- I can't say
There are collectors out there who search PWCC or probsteins list of cards for sale and bid on a card they find interesting. One of these guys might not have been looking for a 52 Mays specifically but saw it and said hey this looks like a nice card and placed a bid.
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I don't think serious card collectors just search Probstein or PWCC. My searches
for card X include all average Joe's cards as well. I can't imagine anyone trying to find a specific card/ condition just looking at those auctions. As to whether or not serious bidders prefer to buy from those larger auctions- I can't say
I have made around 50 individual buys on ebay in the last 2 weeks on mainstream, commodity type Topps cards. I am completely agnostic in who I deal with. I make sure, as much as possible, to not get burned but the seller makes no difference, quite honestly. As far as more people watching big sellers auctions....yeah, I think lots of buddies still bidding on other buddies cards and running them up. I don't buy that the biggest sellers get a lot more money (legitimately). They might get some more as they do get more eyes....just not a ton.
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Sorry didn't want this thread turning into a shilling discussion between the big sellers. Of course it happens everywhere..big..small... and not just with the 2 mentioned.

I was just asking about crossover opinions and the grade you think it would receive, or if I should leave it sinc it's an old label. I got the answers I needed, thank you
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I have made around 50 individual buys on ebay in the last 2 weeks on mainstream, commodity type Topps cards. I am completely agnostic in who I deal with. I make sure, as much as possible, to not get burned but the seller makes no difference, quite honestly. As far as more people watching big sellers auctions....yeah, I think lots of buddies still bidding on other buddies cards and running them up. I don't buy that the biggest sellers get a lot more money (legitimately). They might get some more as they do get more eyes....just not a ton.
ive been contacted on ebay auctions when i was an underbidder from little guys a few times after the auction where they say 'card still aviailable, i had to shill it, if you want the card ill offer you 'x'
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ive been contacted on ebay auctions when i was an underbidder from little guys a few times after the auction where they say 'card still aviailable, i had to shill it, if you want the card ill offer you 'x'
Im surprised they admit they shilled it. I would expect something along the lines of "winner said he's unable to pay."
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Im surprised they admit they shilled it. I would expect something along the lines of "winner said he's unable to pay."
no they have admitted it..heck sometimes its just a minute after the auction ended
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