Mickey mantle uda autographed baseball

[shelly]

What a bunch of crap. Most of you came on here the same way not knowing anything. Now you are experts. Eskimo you have authenticated more stuff that was bad than anyone on this site.
Take a deep breath. He is new but you do not have to jump down his throat.

[Sladge34]

Thank you for everyone's reply, I was not expecting this much feedback so quick. Some of you were very helpful and some were quite rude. Yes,this is my first big autograph purchase and I did not just click and buy the first baseball I saw and that was nice looking. I did alot of research and actually used some of the threads on here to determine real vs. fake autographs. I am very new and have alot of questions about the industry. It seems people on this site mostly know one another and are here to protect the industry, so why is everyone so upset when someone brings up this subject. I had a 99% assurance the ball was real before I came on here, I posted the picture for more feedback and want to thank everyone for there positive feedback. Thanks Marc S.

[w7imel]

Welcome to the world of autograph collecting!!!!! It is a great hobby and there are alot of people here who are very knowledgeable. I have been collecting for 40 years and am still nowhere close to being an expert. I still have Shelly look at every Mantle I think about buying. And while 900 is alot for a real Mantle I find spending a little extra on an auto to have it authenticated in front of a in person authenticator (UDA or Stiener) helps me feel a little better about my purchase.....Nice ball display it proudly (in a UV rated cube) you did great!!! and for future reference if Shelly says you can take it to the bank its golden!!!

Originally Posted by Sladge34

Thank you for everyone's reply, I was not expecting this much feedback so quick. Some of you were very helpful and some were quite rude. Yes,this is my first big autograph purchase and I did not just click and buy the first baseball I saw and that was nice looking. I did alot of research and actually used some of the threads on here to determine real vs. fake autographs. I am very new and have alot of questions about the industry. It seems people on this site mostly know one another and are here to protect the industry, so why is everyone so upset when someone brings up this subject. I had a 99% assurance the ball was real before I came on here, I posted the picture for more feedback and want to thank everyone for there positive feedback. Thanks Marc S.

[vthobby]

Originally Posted by Sladge34

Thank you for everyone's reply, I was not expecting this much feedback so quick. Some of you were very helpful and some were quite rude. Yes,this is my first big autograph purchase and I did not just click and buy the first baseball I saw and that was nice looking. I did alot of research and actually used some of the threads on here to determine real vs. fake autographs. I am very new and have alot of questions about the industry. It seems people on this site mostly know one another and are here to protect the industry, so why is everyone so upset when someone brings up this subject. I had a 99% assurance the ball was real before I came on here, I posted the picture for more feedback and want to thank everyone for there positive feedback. Thanks Marc S.

Let me put you totally at ease. If you EVER are interested in selling this item, PM me. I will always have interest in it. No issues. Thanks and welcome to the site.

Peace, Mike

[Sladge34]

So I bought this ball a little over a month ago. I started looking for this type of ball about 2 months ago. At first I knew nothing about mickey mantle autographs. Every night I was doing a little more research than the past night. Now I'm fully submerged and overwhelmed with what has been going on in the industry for the past 20 some years. I find it unbelievable that these greedy guys flooded there own market with fakes. And when i say flooded, they made it pour for 25+ years counting. Finding out some key players are on this site from operation bullpen does not suprise me. Honest people like myself who had nothing to do with this scam are paying the price today. They basically dismantled any trust people had in autographs. Good job guys! All trying to make a quick buck, didn't one stop to realize that collecting is a long term money maker. I guess not, I hope that short supply of money and jail time was worth it. Values of autographs would have skyrocketed by today without all these fakes. It's a shame people can't wait to cash in, instead it's easier to get a fake coa and fake sig and try to sell it to a sucker

[Bestdj777]

Deleted. Not wasting my time.

[Duluth Eskimo]

Originally Posted by shelly

What a bunch of crap. Most of you came on here the same way not knowing anything. Now you are experts. Eskimo you have authenticated more stuff that was bad than anyone on this site.
Take a deep breath. He is new but you do not have to jump down his throat.

I don't "authenticate" stuff Shelly. I give an opinion. I don't get paid. I didn't get my "education" on here or from you. I have my own opinions and I am not afraid to give it. I have been buying and selling memorabilia for over 30 years. If you disagree that's one thing, but I am not a forger or a thief at this time or anytime in my past. I have a loud mouth sometimes, but I am not either of those. You may be riding the high horse right now, but you may want to STFU.

[shelly]

Originally Posted by Duluth Eskimo

I don't "authenticate" stuff Shelly. I give an opinion. I don't get paid. I didn't get my "education" on here or from you. I have my own opinions and I am not afraid to give it. I have been buying and selling memorabilia for over 30 years. If you disagree that's one thing, but I am not a forger or a thief at this time or anytime in my past. I have a loud mouth sometimes, but I am not either of those. You may be riding the high horse right now, but you may want to STFU.

Take a poll your opinion vs mine. Want to bet how wins.

[shelly]

By the way Eskimo, I wish you had a new come backthat has not been used over the last fifteen years.

[Sladge34]

So let me ask this question to anyone who is following. Obviously some guys are under contract with different companies who offer autographs, but who are some of the best collectors to buy from? I actually bought my ball from cab Collectibles. I know he had the Walter Johnson issue but that was more a jsa issue. He was really helpful and sounded more like a fan than a buyer. Any comments?

[Duluth Eskimo]

Originally Posted by shelly

Take a poll your opinion vs mine. Want to bet how wins.

Shelly,
I think it's funny that you feel the need to blast me when in my reply, I gave you a compliment. I told the OP that he was given "expert opinions" one of which was yours. At least one more was Chris. At no time did I say my opinion was an expert opinion. I do know quite a bit about autographs and buy quite a bit. I could care less what anyone on this site thinks of my opinion. They are asking for free advice generally. I do know one thing, I don't sell forgeries, steal from people, or have first hand knowledge and experience in dismantling the entire autograph hobby at this time or in the past. You may have turned a new leaf and have the respect of many people on this board who I respect, but to me you are nothing but a wolf in sheeps clothing. Once again, STFU

[Sladge34]

I am in no means defending what shelly did in the past. But we all know some sort of crooks, whether it's taking an extra mint at a restaurant or stealing millions of dollars from the unknowing public. I'm not condoning what was done, but he's just the one that got caught. I'd put a poll that most dealers, prob 8-10, would not throw away a fake auto they paid more than $200 on. The problem is once these fakes are identified, there not destroyed by psa or jsa or the FBI... I'm only a beginner but can spot at least 20 fake mantles on eBay. Wtf where is someone policing this! From what I can dig up it sounds like the FBI is going to be making another round or two at this problem. I'm actually reallly glad I started looking for a mantle ball because I see a golden opportunity to unite all collectors and destroy all the fakes and make this business boom again with legite autographs of the publics favorite sports figures... There's no more room for crooked people in this business

[Sladge34]

Thoughts on this ball? The a looks like the classic u shape and the m's look like bananas?

http://m.ebay.com/itm/Mickey-Mantle-...885?nav=SEARCH

[Sladge34]

Or this ball?

http://m.ebay.com/itm/Mickey-Mantle-...254?nav=SEARCH

[shelly]

[QUOTE=Duluth Eskimo;1539969]Shelly,
I think it's funny that you feel the need to blast me when in my reply, I gave you a compliment. I told the OP that he was given "expert opinions" one of which was yours. At least one more was Chris. At no time did I say my opinion was an expert opinion. I do know quite a bit about autographs and buy quite a bit. I could care less what anyone on this site thinks of my opinion. They are asking for free advice generally. I do know one thing, I don't sell forgeries, steal from people, or have first hand knowledge and experience in dismantling the entire autograph hobby at this time or in the past. You may have turned a new leaf and have the respect of many people on this board who I respect, but to me you are nothing but a wolf in sheeps clothing. Once again, STFU[/QUOTE


In the last fifteen years have taken down thousands of pieces off of ebay. I have saved people on this site thousands of dollars. .
Show me anywhere in the past fifteen years that I have done anything but try and protect this hobby unlike yourself.
So give it a rest.