Tale of 2 1953 Topps Mantles

aconte · #1 05-12-2016, 09:20 PM

Comparing these two cards, you can see there is no comparison. It's
not just the centering. The one on the left has weak corners and print
on the cap. The bottom corners on the left Mantle is bad. The one on the
right has a messed corner on the left but it shows with tremendous
eye appeal. Worth a premium? Maybe, but definitely nicer than the
other.

irv · #2 05-12-2016, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds

These ex-mt psa graded examples recently sold in 2 separate pwcc auctions.

If one of them is really worth more than double the other...shouldn't they be graded differently?

Definitely not graded by the same guy or on the same day for that matter.

Not sure which is a 6 in my inexperience, but I'd say the cards should be at least 2 grades apart, not the same.

MetsBaseball1973 · #3 05-12-2016, 10:15 PM

The sales show collectors are buying the card and not the holder, as I read here many times before. Great job by collectors using their eyeballs.

Because the uglier card is more likely a 5. And the nicer one is really a 7. One is over graded and one under graded, and the market acted accordingly.

I would be proud to own the second card. It's really no comparison between the two.

the 'stache · #4 05-13-2016, 03:44 AM

And yet, if both were sent to PSA to regrade, the one on the left would be a four, and the one on the right a five. PSA's laughing all the way to the bank.

Leon · #5 05-13-2016, 08:03 AM

If anyone thinks the centering phenomenon is going away, think again. As I did some searches on the bay last night, in completed auctions, it was easy to tell the nicely centered cards. Even in the same grade there are large pricing deltas. And as a centering nut, I think there should be and am responsible for a bit of the delta myself!! As to the 1953s shown, I would have paid a lot more for the one on the right with the better centering.

Sinker Slider · #6 05-13-2016, 08:22 AM

Here's another example from the last two nights. The 6.5 from PWCC sold for 30% less than the 6 from another eBay auction. Centering is king these days.

Neal · #7 05-13-2016, 11:20 AM

I would say both fall into the PSA 6 spectrum, just a guess, but the one on the right is a "better" 6 .....

Like Peter pointed out, centering is a big deal nowadays regarding price.

bobbyw8469 · #8 05-13-2016, 12:57 PM

When the cards are similar is when I raise an eyebrow. When the cards are vastly different, like as in the case of the two PSA 6's Mantles, then you have to look at the condition of the cards. Not all 6's are created equal, and it is painfully obvious looking at those two examples.

begsu1013 · #9 05-13-2016, 01:56 PM

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bnorth · #10 05-14-2016, 06:44 AM

I think the mega premiums on the centered cards was a little market manipulation and will return to the normal lower premiums. One "seller" was seriously into promoting them. He bought a bunch of mid range perfectly centered cards for his personal(LOL) collection, got the hype going. Then unloaded them through PWCC and repeated while the prices went up.

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