Reporting the discovery of two new T206 DRUM cards

[Beatles Guy]

I do find it interesting that there have been four new Drums to come out of the St. Louis area in less than a year, which includes Scott Tiek's (cardsfan73) find of Starr last year. It makes me want to scour the city looking for more.

[petecld]

Shameless plug…

Both cards to be available in the Heritage Platinum Night Auction in August 2016.

Peter

[Pilot172000]

Originally Posted by petecld

Shameless plug…

Both cards to be available in the Heritage Platinum Night Auction in August 2016.

Peter

Not shameless!!! Informative!

[Jobu]

Nice Ted, thanks for posting.

[bobfreedman]

Peter, is heritage running a live auction at the Nationals?

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Beatles Guy

I do find it interesting that there have been four new Drums to come out of the St. Louis area in less than a year, which includes Scott Tiek's (cardsfan73) find of Starr last year. It makes me want to scour the city looking for more.

Hi Jason

Approx. 6 years ago, Ron Oser was contacted by a St Louis resident who had a T205/T206 find which included 51 - DRUM cards.

T206 DRUM's = 43 cards

T205 DRUM's = 8 cards


Is this a fantastic find....or, what ?


TED Z
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[Beatles Guy]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Hi Jason

Approx. 6 years ago, Ron Oser was contacted by a St Louis resident who had a T205/T206 find which included 51 - DRUM cards.

T206 DRUM's = 43 cards

T205 DRUM's = 8 cards


Is this a fantastic find....or, what ?


TED Z
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Very impressive Ted. I never knew that St. Louis was a hot bed for Drums. It still floors me that Scott found his not two miles from where I sit, at an antique store that I have been in numerous times. I was very happy for him, and admittedly, a little jealous

[btcarfagno]

Is there any list of names that are believed to exist with Drum backs but have not yet been found?

Tom C

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by btcarfagno

Is there any list of names that are believed to exist with Drum backs but have not yet been found?

Tom C

http://t206resource.com/Drum%20350%20Checklist.html

They know about the Hayden and Schreck but just haven't updated the
list yet.

[Webster]

That T206 resource shows the Chase Blue Portrait and Matty Dark Cap as confirmed...are they?

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Webster

That T206 resource shows the Chase Blue Portrait and Matty Dark Cap as confirmed...are they?

T206 resource also shows Ames (hands over head) with AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 and UZIT backs.....and, these front/back combos do not exist.



In 35 years that I have been collecting T206's, I have never seen (or heard of) the Blue Chase with a DRUM back. And, I'm constantly searching for blue Chase cards.

........v




I could say the same for Matty (dark cap). Perhaps some one else will chime in here with scans of these cards.

These 2 guys with DRUM backs are theoretically possible; and, as this thread shows....DRUM cards continue to "come out of the woodwork ". So, they may yet be discovered.


TED Z
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[Joshchisox08]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Hi Jason

Approx. 6 years ago, Ron Oser was contacted by a St Louis resident who had a T205/T206 find which included 51 - DRUM cards.

T206 DRUM's = 43 cards

T205 DRUM's = 8 cards


Is this a fantastic find....or, what ?


TED Z
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So what you're saying is to go to St. Louis

[petecld]

Yes, we are going to have a summer auction but it will not be a Live auction. The ending format will be the 30-minute clock just like our Spring and Fall catalog auctions.

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by btcarfagno

Is there any list of names that are believed to exist with Drum backs but have not yet been found?

Tom C

Here you go, Tom

Theoretical DRUM cards from the 350-only series yet to be found (75 subjects)

Abbott
Anderson
Arndt
Beck
Beckley
Bender (trees)
Blackburne
Bliss
Brain
Brashear
Bresnahan (bat)
Burchell
Burns
Bush
Butler
Campbell
Carrigan
Cassidy
Chappelle
Chase (portrait-blue)

Clancy
Clymer
Collins (A's)
Cravath
Cree
Doolan (fielding)
Dubuc
Dunn (Baltimore)
Dunn (Brooklyn)
Dygert
Easterly
Ferguson
Flanagan
Fromme
Ganzel
Graham (St Louis)
Grimshaw
Hall
Hannifan
Hoffman (Providence)

Hoffman (St Louis)
Howard (Chicago)
Huggins (portrait)
Hulswitt
Jones (Detroit)
Kruger
Lord
Malarkey
Marquard (portrait)
Mathewson (dark cap)
McCormick
Mc Elveen
McGinley
McGinnity
McGlynn
McIntyre (Detroit)
Merritt
Miller (Pittsburg)
Milligan
Myers (bat)

Oberlin
O'Brien
O'Neill
Paskert
Phelan
Poland
Quillen
Sharpe
Shaw (Providence)
Stanage
J. Tannehill (Washington)
White (Buffalo)
Wilson
Wright
Irv Young


The above list is based on my A-B-C-D theory (posted in 2008) that these four T206 brands were printed simultaneously with 190 subjects in the 350-only series.
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...eaf-cycle-drum

AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 and CYCLE 350 brands have indeed met this criteria. BROAD LEAF 350 and DRUM are still a work in progress.







Furthermore......one DRUM card from the 350/460 series remains to be found......

Mullin (bat)


TED Z
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[tedzan]

Scans of La Porte / DRUM card......this card has been graded SGC 20.

There is also a PSA 3 graded DRUM card of La Porte.

[Pat R]

The backs of all three look off center the same amount top to bottom and
left to right, maybe they came from the same sheet.

[tedzan]

Hey Pat

I think you have the beginning of a new project here with your observation regarding these three DRUM cards.

Conceivably, you could figure out the composition of a given DRUM sheet by checking-out all the known DRUM
cards with these exact off-center backs.

It's a highly probable undertaking, as most DRUM cards are unique (or only 2 examples are known of each).


TED Z
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