PWCC Juggernaught

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Leon

If 300M people worldwide (* that could be a small/large number) would want one, then it is a scarce card, relatively speaking.

300 million collectors? Uh, I don't think so.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

300 million collectors? Uh, I don't think so.

I didn't say that. I said 300M people worldwide would want one. I would guess far more than that have heard of him and a lot of those would know his rookie (first card) would be valuable. It might be a stretch but it might not be, actually. I would imagine close to a billion people have heard of him.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Leon

I didn't say that. I said 300M people worldwide would want one. I would guess far more than that have heard of him and a lot of those would know his rookie (first card) would be valuable. It might be a stretch but it might not be, actually. I would imagine close to a billion people have heard of him.

It's an absurd number IMO.

[Beastmode]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

300 million collectors? Uh, I don't think so.

Leon didn't say 300 million collectors, he said 300 million people. The Jordan card transcends collections. There are probably thousands of "people" who only own one card, and that card is the '86 Jordan.

And in the past 5 years we've had, and I'm guessing here, thousands of "investors" who are also not collectors, buying this card as an ego boast.

So, 300 million might be high or low, but Jordan's rookie card is on a entirely different supply/demand curve.

And BTW, I do not own one.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Beastmode

Leon didn't say 300 million collectors, he said 300 million people. The Jordan card transcends collections. There are probably thousands of "people" who only own one card, and that card is the '86 Jordan.

And in the past 5 years we've had, and I'm guessing here, thousands of "investors" who are also not collectors, buying this card as an ego boast.

So, 300 million might be high or low, but Jordan's rookie card is on a entirely different supply/demand curve.

And BTW, I do not own one.

Thanks .....and I don't own one either but obviously agree.

[Beastmode]

Originally Posted by Beastmode

Leon didn't say 300 million collectors, he said 300 million people. The Jordan card transcends collections. There are probably thousands of "people" who only own one card, and that card is the '86 Jordan.

And in the past 5 years we've had, and I'm guessing here, thousands of "investors" who are also not collectors, buying this card as an ego boast.

So, 300 million might be high or low, but Jordan's rookie card is on a entirely different supply/demand curve.

And BTW, I do not own one.

And edit to add, the more Lebron James lowers his shoulder and bull-dozes his way to the basket and refs swallow the whistle; then shots 25% from 3-point; the Jordan card goes up. Jordan created his own shots, Lebron doesn't.

[Bored5000]

Originally Posted by Beastmode

And edit to add, the more Lebron James lowers his shoulder and bull-dozes his way to the basket and refs swallow the whistle; then shots 25% from 3-point; the Jordan card goes up. Jordan created his own shots, Lebron doesn't.

Eh...not sure how much that has to do with the value of Jordan cards. So much of Jordan's legacy and his aura is based on the fact that he was 6-0 in NBA finals, not 2-4.

[swarmee]

Remember, there are over a billion people in China. And they watch NBA basketball. So does France and most of Europe. Jordan is a worldwide star. And I would say that 50K people that think they have this card actually have a reprint. It's up there with the Wagner, I'm sure, in the Top 5 of reprinted/faked cards.