Can the experts tell what's going on with this Mantle?

[111gecko]

Bottom right might have been rebuilt. It goes all the way through to the back as well...you can see it on both sides.

[begsu1013]

bleached or powder washed is my guess.

if ya look at the borders on each side of mick's face,

looks like the heavier stains did not fully release.

that corner mighta been rebuilt as previously mentioned,

but all of the corners are the exact same color as the rest of the card

which leads me to believe it was bleached/washed as well.


it does leave a distinct smell so

wouldn't be able to tell now as it's encased.


a simple black light would be able to distinguish if it was rebuilt or not:

[Peter_Spaeth]

So far we have trimming, a pressed out crease, a rebuilt corner, and bleaching. Any others?

[irv]

Well, the one I posted, altered or not, got $15,000!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-M...p2047675.l2557

[Bestdj777]

Originally Posted by irv

Well, the one I posted, altered or not, got $15,000!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-M...p2047675.l2557

It is definitely altered. No one would leave it in a holder with that grade if they weren't positive it was altered. That said, it's a gorgeous card and it is not surprising at all that it brought a strong price. Authentic cards aren't for everyone, but, in my opinion, a card with the eye appeal of an PSA 8 for the price of a PSA 2 is a great deal. That's just me though and opinions do vary.

[KCRfan1]

I'm on board with the same thought Chris. That Mantle is a nice looking card that went cheap.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Bestdj777

It is definitely altered. No one would leave it in a holder with that grade if they weren't positive it was altered. That said, it's a gorgeous card and it is not surprising at all that it brought a strong price. Authentic cards aren't for everyone, but, in my opinion, a card with the eye appeal of an PSA 8 for the price of a PSA 2 is a great deal. That's just me though and opinions do vary.

You would think not, but the seller sure sounds like he can't really figure it out why it received the grade it did.
But, like he said, here it is and put it up for sale.

Personally, if it were my card, I would have tried again or tried SGC just to verify it before putting it up for sale, but without having the card in hand, that is easy for me to say.

Originally Posted by KCRfan1

I'm on board with the same thought Chris. That Mantle is a nice looking card that went cheap.

I agree, and maybe the buyer will do exactly as I said above and get a second opinion on it? If it comes back legit, he will be laughing all the way to the bank!

[pclpads]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

So far we have trimming, a pressed out crease, a rebuilt corner, and bleaching. Any others?

Opinions are like a-holes and elbows . . . we all have 'em.