rarest backs

[ValKehl]

I question whether the frequently seen purple Henry A. Johnson back-stamped W575-1 cards are sufficiently rare to be included on this list. However, there is a different, light-blue HAJ back-stamped W575-1 that I believe to be quite rare. Examples of both appear below.
Val

[Leon]

Originally Posted by ValKehl

I question whether the frequently seen purple Henry A. Johnson back-stamped W575-1 cards are sufficiently rare to be included on this list. However, there is a different, light-blue HAJ back-stamped W575-1 that I believe to be quite rare. Examples of both appear below.
Val

I have seen some fake Henry Johnson backs but that green one looks real. I don't think I have seen that variety before. We will have to get Al C's take on it.

[ullmandds]

This hobby sure is "curious"...how most rubber stamps on the back of cards knock down the grade and the value...even if placed by their original owner.

And on the other hand...cards like the henry johnson's...were likely distributed as blank backs, just like the others stamped by their owners, and then were stamped by the purveyor to aid in advertising and given away are coveted, rare and valuable.

As they like to say in Cambodia...same same...but different!

Can anyone say..."toy town!"

[Bliggity]

How about the T209-2 B.A. Thompson back? I think it fits your criteria, although it's a bit different in that Thompson is the only card in the set with that back, and Thompson can only be found with that back.

Not my card.




ETA: Looks like there are actually four different versions of the Thompson back: (A) no factory number; (B) stamped factory number; (C) printed factory number; (D) black border. Each one may be unique, or close to it. (Courtesy of t209-contentnea.com)

[Al C.risafulli]

I have seen some fake Henry Johnson backs but that green one looks real. I don't think I have seen that variety before. We will have to get Al C's take on it.

I'd consider the purple Henry Johnsons pretty rare, and the green ones REALLY rare. I own a couple and have never seen any others, and Val, yours is AMAZING. I'm confident in their authenticity, and the fact that there's a WaJo out there is incredible to me.

-Al

[ValKehl]

Al & Leon, thanks for your input and kind words. I picked up this green (actually, I like to call it turquoise, which is one of my favorite colors) HAJ WaJo roughly 20 years ago, before TPG became big time and before WaJo cards became as expensive as they are today. I'm confident this card is legit, but I'd hesitate to buy it today if it wasn't already graded.
Val

Originally Posted by Al C.risafulli

I'd consider the purple Henry Johnsons pretty rare, and the green ones REALLY rare. I own a couple and have never seen any others, and Val, yours is AMAZING. I'm confident in their authenticity, and the fact that there's a WaJo out there is incredible to me.

-Al

[MMarvelli]

the early '20's was a good time for cards...



D-Gassler's Bread Hornsby, Rogers (F+B).jpg

D-Haffner's Bread Holke, Walter (F+B).jpg

E-Gertenrich Judge, Joe (F+B cropped).jpg

E-Henry A Johnson Milan, Clyde (F+B).jpg

E-Henry A Johnson Morton, Guy (F+B cropped).jpg

E-Keating Candy Miller, Otto (F+B).jpg

E-Service Candy Co O'Neill, Steve (F+B cropped).jpg

E-Witmor Candy-1 Gleason, Kid (F+B).jpg

Unc-Leader Theatre Groh, Heine (F+B).jpg

[darwinbulldog]

For those who haven't read through from the beginning of the thread, what I have been trying to compile here is a list of exceptionally rare backs on ACC-cataloged issues. There have to be fewer than 50 total examples of the type (so a T215 Pirate, for example, is too common) and the total number, whatever it may be, has to comprise less than 1% of the total population of the set (so an E107 with the "Breisch, Williams" stamp is too common).

Here, then, is the updated list with changes in bold. I continue to seek input on this.

D310 Aldon Candy, Pacific Coast Biscuit Co. stamp
E92 Croft’s (red)
E94 Your Out, Close's Oppie Dildock, Three Strikes, Pennant Winners, A Base Hit!, Your Safe! If..., Your Safe! Have..., Home Run!, Oh You Fan!
E98 Old Put
E101 D355*
E121 Kings, Gertenrich
E135 Merchant's
M101-4 Haserot's, Mall Theater, Everybody's type 1, Everybody's type 2, Everybody's type 3, Everybody's type 4
R316 Douglas Park, Morton, Rialto, Community
S74-1 Helmar
T205 Hindu, Drum
T206 Old Mill (brown), Lenox (brown), Cobb**
T207 Red Cross
T209-2 B.E. Thompson
T213-3 Factory 8 overprint
W461 Playland
W502/F50 Greiner's
W514 Hendler's, Barker, Mother's, Robinson
W515 Fleer, Jersey
W516-1-1 Sandow
W517 Piercy's
W551 Wool's
W554 Lucky Yo-Yo, Lukcy Deal, 40 Winners, Bonemery
W573/E120 Cafe du Monde, Cream Nut, Kings, Leader Theatre
W575-1 Johnson, Henry Johnson green, Henry Johnson and Howard P Bo***, Haffner's, Clark's, Gassler's, Leader Theatre, Queen City, Shotwell, Service Candy, Witmor horizontal, Witmor vertical


*The Niagara Baking back is certainly rare enough to qualify, but Burdick classified it as its own set; so you could say of these cards either that 100% of D355s have the same back ad or that < 1% of E101s are found with the Niagara stamp.
**The T206 Ty Cobb back is included in the list only because Burdick called it a T206. The card would not otherwise be considered a T206, but then again, nothing would, now would it?
*** This:

[Bigb13]

How about the E97 Blank backs?

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Bigb13

How about the E97 Blank backs?

they're not that rare

[Bigb13]

There's only one Austin that's not rare?