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Old 05-03-2016, 03:11 PM
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So they'll check to see if it meets the minimum grade while it's in the other holder? Considering that there is minimal (or, if you're being cynical, no) difference between an 8.5 and a 9, is that even something that they can do? Like, can you get proper magnification on the sides of the card to check for bumps etc., while it's in the holder? I mean, I guess the answer is yes, but man...

What would they do if you sent them something graded by a really sketchy grading company? The kind of place that sometimes grades fakes. If you put a minimum grade on it they'd need to authenticate it without holding it, and so, e.g., without being able to check to see if it's the right card stock. Would they refuse to grade it, and if so on what grounds?
Thats the trade off. It's harder to examine the card in a holder and it's less likely to get a bump. But there is too much risk for most to crack a card of this caliber out. If they can't determine the card will meet your minimum grade requirement, or even authenticity PSA will return the card to you in the same holder you submitted it in.
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$700, wow - does the increased grading fee get your more eyes or a more expert grader? Or is it just participation in the secondary value of the card? Don't give me the blah blah blah about how it is about insuring a more valuable card against loss or damage on the premises.
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Once again, I'm not an SGC fan, but his best option for improvement with least possible expense, might be to try and bump the SGC grade.....Card quite possibly could be an SGC 98 with a little luck...

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Once again, I'm not an SGC fan, but his best option for improvement with least possible expense, might be to try and bump the SGC grade.....Card quite possibly could be an SGC 98 with a little luck...
How do we know? We haven't seen the back or looked at the corners under a loupe. The card looks great from the front scan, but other than the guy who has it in hand, it's all speculation.

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Irv, given the value of your Mantle, it would only cost you $85.00 to have PSA grade it, plus shipping both ways. Not sure the value on the Mays, but it should cost more than the Mantle to grade. You might even be able to squeeze it in at a lower price level.
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Irv, given the value of your Mantle, it would only cost you $85.00 to have PSA grade it, plus shipping both ways. Not sure the value on the Mays, but it should cost more than the Mantle to grade. You might even be able to squeeze it I at a lower price level.
This sounds right. Declare the Mantle's value at 4,900 and the Mays at 1,900. Grading fees will be 85 and 40 plus shipping both ways. If those were my cards I would get them out of those cases right away and would sumbit them to PSA. Good luck either way.
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Talk to PWCC and ask them if they would want to try crossover for you on their nickel. And have a predetermined deal that if it does cross to PSA 9 you will sell it through their auctions. Just an idea - worst they say is no thanks.

Otherwise I wouldn't try it on your own for $700. - ouch! But if you do gamble, make sure centering is near perfect with no tilt cut. And I wouldn't risk if it has a natural rough cut boarder.
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$700, wow - does the increased grading fee get your more eyes or a more expert grader? Or is it just participation in the secondary value of the card? Don't give me the blah blah blah about how it is about insuring a more valuable card against loss or damage on the premises.
yes to just about all.

more informed grader.
a hellavu lot faster service. usually same day.
notes as to what held it back.

the notion of sending it to an auction house to have them submit is a pretty good idea though. kudos there.

not sure pwcc would do it considering their "certified high end" program. however, I do not know that as fact and basically speaking outta my @ss there.

but the auction house submittal is still brilliant nevertheless.
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How does one go about getting the less informed grader, pay less?



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yes to just about all.

more informed grader.
a hellavu lot faster service. usually same day.
notes as to what held it back.

the notion of sending it to an auction house to have them submit is a pretty good idea though. kudos there.

not sure pwcc would do it considering their "certified high end" program. however, I do not know that as fact and basically speaking outta my @ss there.

but the auction house submittal is still brilliant nevertheless.
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Are submission sources NOT blinded to the grader? If no, please explain.
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How does one go about getting the less informed grader, pay less?
by sending subs to bccg or pro grading....
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by sending subs to bccg or pro grading....
This city is in California already, home of PSA. I think it might be where the less informed graders are...

and I should add, I have no issue with PSA and most of my valuable cards, in my current collection, are in PSA holders as that is how they came ...

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