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Old 05-03-2016, 05:23 AM
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Why or how is that?
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Old 05-03-2016, 06:39 AM
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Actually, it'll be $700 per submission attempt. That's the PSA fee for cards worth over $10,000.
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Old 05-03-2016, 07:40 AM
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I think it is worth the crossover. My only question would be why did Mile High not submit it to PSA for crossover if it is worth so much more in a PSA holder.
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Old 05-03-2016, 08:51 AM
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I think it is worth the crossover. My only question would be why did Mile High not submit it to PSA for crossover if it is worth so much more in a PSA holder.
OP bought it five years ago.
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Old 05-03-2016, 08:55 AM
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WOW!!!!! $700 for the submit?!?!?!?

So if one is not current/up to date on SMR values...or values in general and submits a card. Is that submitter less likely to get a higher grade if they've undervalued their submission...whether intentionally or not????
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Old 05-03-2016, 09:06 AM
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WOW!!!!! $700 for the submit?!?!?!?

So if one is not current/up to date on SMR values...or values in general and submits a card. Is that submitter less likely to get a higher grade if they've undervalued their submission...whether intentionally or not????
I don't believe there is any significant bias between submission tier and grader outcome. I've seen $20 cards become $5,000 cards under standard bulk submissions with a $100 value cap.

If PSA charged $50 per review for a $25,000 card, the owner will submit it 50 times just to see if they can get a bump. In my opinion it's a sort of luxury tax to help prevent market manipulation. There are very few $10,000 raw cards on earth, so this fee structure essentially only affects resubmitters.
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Old 05-03-2016, 09:27 AM
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I don't believe there is any significant bias between submission tier and grader outcome. I've seen $20 cards become $5,000 cards under standard bulk submissions with a $100 value cap.

If PSA charged $50 per review for a $25,000 card, the owner will submit it 50 times just to see if they can get a bump. In my opinion it's a sort of luxury tax to help prevent market manipulation. There are very few $10,000 raw cards on earth, so this fee structure essentially only affects resubmitters.

OK...well has anyone been contaced by a TPG'er afer a submission...to be notified that they have dramatically undervalued a submitted card(s) and that they will have to pay a higher fee if they want the card graded?
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I think it is worth the crossover. My only question would be why did Mile High not submit it to PSA for crossover if it is worth so much more in a PSA holder.
Who says they didn't try?
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So they'll check to see if it meets the minimum grade while it's in the other holder? Considering that there is minimal (or, if you're being cynical, no) difference between an 8.5 and a 9, is that even something that they can do? Like, can you get proper magnification on the sides of the card to check for bumps etc., while it's in the holder? I mean, I guess the answer is yes, but man...

What would they do if you sent them something graded by a really sketchy grading company? The kind of place that sometimes grades fakes. If you put a minimum grade on it they'd need to authenticate it without holding it, and so, e.g., without being able to check to see if it's the right card stock. Would they refuse to grade it, and if so on what grounds?
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Old 05-03-2016, 01:07 PM
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Bought the card in 2010 and doubt the price difference between PSA and SGC was large. After all it was a $6000 card so maybe PSA 9 was 6500. Maybe they tried but doubt it was worth the effort in 2010.
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So they'll check to see if it meets the minimum grade while it's in the other holder? Considering that there is minimal (or, if you're being cynical, no) difference between an 8.5 and a 9, is that even something that they can do? Like, can you get proper magnification on the sides of the card to check for bumps etc., while it's in the holder? I mean, I guess the answer is yes, but man...

What would they do if you sent them something graded by a really sketchy grading company? The kind of place that sometimes grades fakes. If you put a minimum grade on it they'd need to authenticate it without holding it, and so, e.g., without being able to check to see if it's the right card stock. Would they refuse to grade it, and if so on what grounds?
Thats the trade off. It's harder to examine the card in a holder and it's less likely to get a bump. But there is too much risk for most to crack a card of this caliber out. If they can't determine the card will meet your minimum grade requirement, or even authenticity PSA will return the card to you in the same holder you submitted it in.
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$700, wow - does the increased grading fee get your more eyes or a more expert grader? Or is it just participation in the secondary value of the card? Don't give me the blah blah blah about how it is about insuring a more valuable card against loss or damage on the premises.
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OK...well has anyone been contaced by a TPG'er afer a submission...to be notified that they have dramatically undervalued a submitted card(s) and that they will have to pay a higher fee if they want the card graded?
When I found out they were charging $700 for a $10,000 card, I questioned what is so special/different about a $10,000 dollar card compared to a $9,000 dollar card or less?

I believe it was answered above, but I initially thought PSA, seeing your good fortune also wanted a piece of the action?

Just curious, do any of you see either of these cards costing me $700 dollars U.S. ($1000+ CdN) to get these graded?

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