1956 Mantle Advice Needed Sgc 96

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by jfkheat

A few months ago I crossed a SGC 96 1954 Red Heart Dog Food card to a PSA 9. As Peter said, post a scan for a better opinion.
James

Left in the case or cracked out?

[jfkheat]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Left in the case or cracked out?

Left in the case. I sent in two SGC graded Red Heart cards for cross over, an 8 and the 9. Both crossed to the same as SGC had graded them. I listed minimum grades of 8 and 8.5 on the form. Both cards were in the SGC holder when PSA received them.
James

[Delray Vintage]

Thanks guys, I have the card in the vault so do not have a scan handy. I guess I was not looking for a Net54 grade, just the general experience crossing over from sgc to psa. Does PSA act objectively when receiving the SGC card, as an SGC 96 should cross? It is kind of ridiculous to even think of this but these mantle collectors seem to pay much more for PSA. I see many SGC mantles that are gorgeous at sgc 80 or 84 but they go so much less than PSA even though they look equivalent. Crazy that someone would pay over 50k for the 56 PSA nine and half for the SGC 96.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Delray Vintage

Thanks guys, I have the card in the vault so do not have a scan handy. I guess I was not looking for a Net54 grade, just the general experience crossing over from sgc to psa. Does PSA act objectively when receiving the SGC card, as an SGC 96 should cross? It is kind of ridiculous to even think of this but these mantle collectors seem to pay much more for PSA. I see many SGC mantles that are gorgeous at sgc 80 or 84 but they go so much less than PSA even though they look equivalent. Crazy that someone would pay over 50k for the 56 PSA nine and half for the SGC 96.

crazy it is!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Delray Vintage

Thanks guys, I have the card in the vault so do not have a scan handy. I guess I was not looking for a Net54 grade, just the general experience crossing over from sgc to psa. Does PSA act objectively when receiving the SGC card, as an SGC 96 should cross? It is kind of ridiculous to even think of this but these mantle collectors seem to pay much more for PSA. I see many SGC mantles that are gorgeous at sgc 80 or 84 but they go so much less than PSA even though they look equivalent. Crazy that someone would pay over 50k for the 56 PSA nine and half for the SGC 96.

General experience is not going to say much about your chances of crossing a card of that magnitude in the holder.

[pokerplyr80]

I forgot to mention if it was graded before SGC implemented their new grading scale the chances are very low. SGC doesn't even guarantee those will cross into new holders. If the flip only has the 96 grade and not the 9 as well it's a long shot at best.

[Jobu]

If you think it will get a 9 then send it to PSA in the SGC slab and specify a minimum grade of a 9. If you crack it you risk not getting that grade from PSA and getting a lower grade from SGC - not to mention two grading fees.

[vintagetoppsguy]

If you submit a card in person (i.e. a show) do they let you talk to the graders? In other words, if he submitted it for crossover at a show and it didn't cross over for whatever reason, would someone tell him why not?

[pclpads]

Originally Posted by Jobu

If you think it will get a 9 then send it to PSA in the SGC slab and specify a minimum grade of a 9. If you crack it you risk not getting that grade from PSA and getting a lower grade from SGC - not to mention two grading fees.

What he said. My view of SGC is that the greater a card is o/c, the higher the grade. SGC has a blind eye to centering. Doesn't apply with PSA. So, unless your 96 is 50-50 all around on both sides and no flaws, getting an even cross ain't gonna happen. Don't pop it out, just send it in in the SGC slab for a like x-over. That way, if it fails, you still have your 96.

[Delray Vintage]

It has both the 96 and 9.

[ullmandds]

how's the centering Bob?

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by Delray Vintage

It has both the 96 and 9.

Thats good at least. As someone else mentioned just send it in the case with psa 9 minimum grade requested. At only a few hundred bucks to pick up 25k or more in value it only has to work 1 in 50 tInes to make sense. I'm no expert but I'd say your chances of crossing it are greater than 2%.

[Delray Vintage]

found front image on mile high site where I acquired it