Do you leave negative feedback for excessive shipping?

[JollyElm]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Hes only charging $3.50 shipping. What more do you want? Instead of $.11 for the bubble mailer, how about he charges $.51 and throws in the business card / marketing material for free? Would that make you feel better about the $3.50 shipping?

He's listing SPECIFIC charges for shipping, m_ron. Things like the cost of tape and the bubble mailer. 'Charging' someone for business cards and marketing materials is not a freaking SPECIFIC cost of shipping to be passed on to the buyer.

[tribefan]

Shipping 3 oz or less is now 2.45 after the USPS rollback a few weeks ago. The 9 cents per package savings should make a nice rebate for volume shippers.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

He's listing SPECIFIC charges for shipping, moron. Things like the cost of tape and the bubble mailer. 'Charging' someone for business cards and marketing materials is not a freaking SPECIFIC cost of shipping to be passed on to the buyer.

Dumbass

[JollyElm]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Dumbass

Just like a few years ago, a-hole. Any f**** time. Bring it, tough guy. Bring it!!!!!

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

Just like a few years ago, asshole. Any fucking time. Bring it, tough guy. Bring it!!!!!

What happened a few years ago? Be very spevific about all the details because if you dont, I will (and I still have the PMs to back it up). Go ahead, tell exactly what happened.

[JollyElm]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

What happened a few years ago? Be very spevific about all the details because if you dont, I will (and I still have the PMs to back it up). Go ahead, tell exactly what happened.

Your whole purpose in life, as anyone can see by reading any thread you're involved in, is just to be an a-hole to everybody. It's hilarious!!! I mean the rest of us get in arguments or disagreements here and there, because we're normal human beings, but you?? 100% snarky anger 100% of the time.

Oh, and it involves you being a fucking tough guy, d-bag. Complaining and carping because in your dumba** mind I was posting too much for a new guy. And you obviously thought I would be 'frightened' of you. So I specifically asked you where you live so maybe we could have a little meet up. Because if you were anywhere near me on the east coast, anywhere, I would've been happy to meet up with you and see how tough you really are. But, alas, you were in Texas. And I believe you sent me a pic of your license but said something to the effect of, I'm moving so I won't be living there very soon. Aw, you saved the PM's. How cute.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

Your whole purpose in life, as anyone can see by reading any thread you're involved in, is just to be an asshole to everybody. It's hilarious!!! I mean the rest of us get in arguments or disagreements here and there, because we're normal human beings, but you?? 100% snarky anger 100% of the time.

Oh, and it involves you being a fucking tough guy, douchebag. Complaining and carping because in your dumbass mind I was posting too much for a new guy. And you obviously thought I would be 'frightened' of you. So I specifically asked you where you live so maybe we could have a little meet up. Because if you were anywhere near me on the east coast, anywhere, I would've been happy to meet up with you and see how tough you really are. But, alas, you were in Texas. And I believe you sent me a pic of your license but said something to the effect of, I'm moving so I won't be living there very soon. Aw, you saved the PM's. How cute.

Your close, but a little bit off. First of all, you're the one that started with the name calling in this thread. Your foul mouth has got you banned from here before, I am sure it will again. As far as what happened a couple years ago, I told you I would be willing to fly out to wherever you are and meet up on my dime. Its still a standing offer. I sent you the copy of my drivers license to show you how serious I was. Still am. All you have to do is provide me a picture ID and a verifiable address. After all, I would hate to brake the wrong guys jaw. PM me with that information and we got a date.

[begsu1013]

this is hilariously sad, guys....

got the popcorn ready regardless.

[JollyElm]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Your close, but a little bit off. First of all, you're the one that started with the name calling in this thread. Your foul mouth has got you banned from here before, I am sure it will again. As far as what happened a couple years ago, I told you I would be willing to fly out to wherever you are and meet up on my dime. Its still a standing offer. I sent you the copy of my drivers license to show you how serious I was. Still am. All you have to do is provide me a picture ID and a verifiable address. After all, I would hate to brake the wrong guys jaw. PM me with that information and we got a date.

I was replying to Sean, m_ron, and as usual you jumped in to be a do_che, because that's what you do time after time after time. Provide my address to you??? F_ck you. My life and my line of work is way too important to me to give an absolute piece of crap like you anything. You're just a laughable loser and you're still instigating stuff day after day after day. You're probably j_king off to this thread right now thinking you're getting to me. All I can say is ha ha ha.

[Leon]

Infraction given. Either leave that language at the door or you will be shown where it is. ANd I should add, your next outburst of profanity on this board will in fact be your last one.

Originally Posted by JollyElm

Your whole purpose in life, as anyone can see by reading any thread you're involved in, is just to be an a-hole to everybody. It's hilarious!!! I mean the rest of us get in arguments or disagreements here and there, because we're normal human beings, but you?? 100% snarky anger 100% of the time.

Oh, and it involves you being a fucking tough guy, d-bag. Complaining and carping because in your dumba** mind I was posting too much for a new guy. And you obviously thought I would be 'frightened' of you. So I specifically asked you where you live so maybe we could have a little meet up. Because if you were anywhere near me on the east coast, anywhere, I would've been happy to meet up with you and see how tough you really are. But, alas, you were in Texas. And I believe you sent me a pic of your license but said something to the effect of, I'm moving so I won't be living there very soon. Aw, you saved the PM's. How cute.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Leon

Infraction given. Either leave that language at the door or you will be shown where it is. ANd I should add, your next outburst of profanity on this board will in fact be your last one.

http://www.successwithlogan.com/

[Sean1125]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

He's listing SPECIFIC charges for shipping, moron. Things like the cost of tape and the bubble mailer. 'Charging' someone for business cards and marketing materials is not a freaking SPECIFIC cost of shipping to be passed on to the buyer.

The $3.50 charge is fully disclosed prior to purchasing the item. The additional cost for shipping cards above that is $.10 per item.

eBay taking $.35 per shipping charge which is something that is unable to be passed on to the consumer.

eBay also charges to list each item and Paypal charges to sell each item.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Sean1125

Buyers who complain about shipping charges and how "you try to make money on them" get blocked.

I think we found you one right here in this thread.

Hey, Weeping Willow, err, I mean Jolly Elm, how about sharing your eBay ID here so that several of us can block you?

[JollyElm]

Originally Posted by Sean1125

The $3.50 charge is fully disclosed prior to purchasing the item. The additional cost for shipping cards above that is $.10 per item.

eBay taking $.35 per shipping charge which is something that is unable to be passed on to the consumer.

eBay also charges to list each item and Paypal charges to sell each item.

Listen, Sean. You can charge whatever the hell you want for shipping. I've bought quite a lot from you off of ebay. No problem. My 'objection' is you adding your marketing expenses to your list in your first post. Tape and envelopes are specifically a part of a buyer's expense to get something shipped. Paying for your business cards is an operating expense and has nothing to do with the actual mailing.

[Sean1125]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

Listen, Sean. You can charge whatever the hell you want for shipping. I've bought quite a lot from you off of ebay. No problem. My 'objection' is you adding your marketing expenses to your list in your first post. Tape and envelopes are specifically a part of a buyer's expense to get something shipped. Paying for your business cards is an operating expense and has nothing to do with the actual mailing.

I understand your point of view. I respectfully disagree.

Any way we look at it this is a matter of a few cents and washes out.

I didn't add in label cost, the $.05-$.10 eBay cost to get the item up, or the $.30+2.9% Paypal fee. At the end of the day the only entity winning on shipping cost is eBay/Paypal.

[D.P.Johnson]

What about the cost of printer ink and labels???......

[Sean1125]

Originally Posted by D.P.Johnson

What about the cost of printer ink and labels???......

As a collector trying to connect with other collectors you should be factoring in your printer ink, labels (I forgot those on the list above, whoops - it's actually a loss of 4 cents per package), and business cards.

How many of you guys are here that are collectors, but have a business card for your hobby business?

I meet quite a few guys who set up at card shows on the weekend that pass out business cards and are collectors. Their table cost and business card cost may be minimal, but it still factors in.

Let's get back to the topic: negative feedback for excessive shipping. Would you leave a negative feedback for an charge of $3.50, disclosed at the time of listing?

[D.P.Johnson]

Originally Posted by Sean1125

As a collector trying to connect with other collectors you should be factoring in your printer ink, labels (I forgot those on the list above, whoops - it's actually a loss of 4 cents per package), and business cards.

How many of you guys are here that are collectors, but have a business card for your hobby business?

I meet quite a few guys who set up at card shows on the weekend that pass out business cards and are collectors. Their table cost and business card cost may be minimal, but it still factors in.

Let's get back to the topic: negative feedback for excessive shipping. Would you leave a negative feedback for an charge of $3.50, disclosed at the time of listing?

My comment wasn't directed at you Sean; I'm actually impressed you've figured out exactly what it DOES cost to ship a small package. I remember this topic (the cost of shipping) being discussed before, and I think it sheds some light on the subject, expecially for those people who think sellers are "gouging" when they charge $3.00 or so to ship an item.
Anyway, with that being said, NO I don't think $3.50 is excessive for shipping an item, and I wouldn't leave negative feedback...

[begsu1013]

to answer you question directly...

it depends:


q: if i pay $3.50 and it's properly packed?

a: great. posi feedback.


q: if i pay $3.50 and it shows up in a white envelope, but still unscathed?

a: i say "wow", note the brass balls but still don't leave neg feedback.


q: if i pay $3.50+ and it shows up in a white envelope and is damaged?

a: heaven help them.