Dee Gordon got 'Coached' !

[Topps206]

This is why the innocent are also the accused.

[packs]

David Ortiz failed a drug test though. He is not innocent.

[Piratedogcardshows]

I knew Bonds' name would turn up somewhere in all of this. Yes Dee Gordon has been slowly building bulk up for years before coming into contact with Bonds. Move on to another witch hunt already.

[D.P.Johnson]

His dirty test was from Spring Training. I doubt Bonds showed up and immediately convinced him he needed to stick a needle in his *ss...

[Joshchisox08]

Originally Posted by packs

David Ortiz failed a drug test though. He is not innocent.

Bahahahahaahaha. Yet he is in the Boston/Public eye. I've never seen a bigger mouthed moronic, self-centered, egotistical player than him.

Many Boston writers have written on him and the fact he got a "free pass" on the whole steroid thing and should just shut his fat mouth and stop complaining. He thinks he's above the game for some reason.

Looks like the combination of grimace and a snapping turtle.

I couldn't stand Clemens, and Bonds, but god to I loathe Fat Sloppy.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by Joshchisox08

Bahahahahaahaha. Yet he is in the Boston/Public eye. I've never seen a bigger mouthed moronic, self-centered, egotistical player than him.

Many Boston writers have written on him and the fact he got a "free pass" on the whole steroid thing and should just shut his fat mouth and stop complaining. He thinks he's above the game for some reason.

Looks like the combination of grimace and a snapping turtle.

I couldn't stand Clemens, and Bonds, but god to I loathe Fat Sloppy.

A lot of guys that were probably positive before there was a solid testing program or for that matter, any at all got the same free pass. The guys like Bonds, Arod, and others continued to do stuff after the testing program got in place. I'll take ego over ego + stupidity.

Baseballs testing is pretty weak compared to other sports and even the insane testing in sports like cycling doesn't catch everyone. Those guys have to report even their off season plans, who they're training with and where and when. And have to notify the governing authority of any changes. Not doing that is considered a positive and usually gets a ban.

And pretty much every supermarket is full of stuff that Olympic level athletes can't eat.

Steve B

[chaddurbin]

i don't believe bonds ever failed a mlb-sanctioned drug test? even though everybody knew he did it, it takes true conviction for the guy to keep lying up thru the judicial system and eventually beating the fed, that's narcissim to a whole 'nother level and you gotta admire that. he didn't cower behind the 5th amendment like mcgwire or acted like he just stepped off the boat like sosa...he gritted his teeth and lied straight to their faces!

it's a whacked world where dawson and jim rice are hof'ers and barry's not...but i digress. what where we talking about? arrieta on ped?

[packs]

Didn't Bonds pay his trainer to languish in jail for years just so he could save his reputation? That's pretty low. Might even be worse than outright failing.

[HRBAKER]

No, you don't have to admire that.

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by packs

Didn't Bonds pay his trainer to languish in jail for years just so he could save his reputation? That's pretty low. Might even be worse than outright failing.

That was not money well spent, meaning he didn't save it.