Does Everyone Understand Pre-War?

[glynparson]

What does it take a whole 5-10 seconds to read the title of the thread? I would rather see some off topics then have the board be stagnant with no fresh discussions. I understand there is a postwar board but i believe we all know this is the main board on this site. I too would like more prewar discussions on the prewar board but am certainly not bothered by talk of other vintage payers.

[buymycards]

Hi Blair, I agree with you. Put the post war threads in the post war area. Why are they on the main board? The same with the Prince thread. (fyi -I am a big fan of Prince) There are 1000's of forums available, so why would someone put a Prince thread on the main page of a pre-war baseball card forum? Everyone knows that Prince is dead and adding a thread on this forum doesn't contribute anything. It would be appropriate in the Water Cooler section, but not the main page.

It really isn't a big deal, and it only takes a few seconds to skip over a thread, but it is a little weird. BTW, I love this forum and I have a great deal of respect for Leon and the way that he moderates the forum.

Rick

[shernan30]

A few hot topic post-war/modern threads are perfectly fine. My big gripe is these threads get more discussion than the pre-war threads. Also, when we talk about post-war and modern players and events how about throwing in a few comparisons to pre-war.

Arrieta threw a no-hitter, so did Cy Young, Bumpus Jones, Nap Rucker, ... Heck, Addie Jose had back to back no-hitters for all of MLB (October 2 1908 then April 20 1910).

If we touch on these topics in the pre-war section, let's include some pre-war history along with them.

[kevinlenane]

My bad on the 51 Topps thread - I kind of assumed (wrongly) that near war discussion topics happened here since there isn't another highly trafficked page for this. Anyway, you have my solemn pledge to not violate the pre-war date again. Now, is it 39 when the war began or 41 when the US entered?

[ZachS]

Prince was definitely post-war

[Beastmode]

Originally Posted by ZachS

Prince was definitely post-war

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[Beastmode]

Viewers as of now:

Prewar 135
Post war 24
modern 2 (I think these guys are over on Blowout/PSA)

I don't collect pre-war myself and seldom click on those threads (Breaking news, another T206 "show em if you got em" thread just showed up). However, I do find lots of useful information on collecting in general and enjoy the topics that cover all eras.

I've posted several times on this forum, but don't recall if any of my subjects have ever been pre-war. So I'll continue to loiter in this forum unless otherwise asked to leave.

[begsu1013]

Originally Posted by ZachS

Prince was definitely post-war

[buymycards]

Well, I guess what I don't understand is this - If you are posting about a 1954 Aaron RC, why would you NOT put it in the post war area? Why would you put it in the prewar area? If you are posting about a 1983 Gwynn RC, what would make you think that it belongs on the main page of a prewar forum rather than in the 1980's area?

As long as I am venting, why is there so much eBay spam on the BST? There is a section for eBay auctions. Don't post your eBay spam in other areas of the BST.

There- I feel better now.

Where do I post my Beanie Babies?

[rats60]

Originally Posted by kevinlenane

My bad on the 51 Topps thread - I kind of assumed (wrongly) that near war discussion topics happened here since there isn't another highly trafficked page for this. Anyway, you have my solemn pledge to not violate the pre-war date again. Now, is it 39 when the war began or 41 when the US entered?

Prewar should be 1941 and earlier signifying a semi regular production of sets up to 1941 and then a complete stop because of war rationing from 1942-45 and then not really picking up again until 1948.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by rats60

Prewar should be 1941 and earlier signifying a semi regular production of sets up to 1941 and then a complete stop because of war rationing from 1942-45 and then not really picking up again until 1948.

Personally, I think of pre-war as 1945 and back.....so for me it's pre-end of wwII...... no one will get a thread moved posting a baseball card from 1945 and back....

[Rookiemonster]

There has been a lot of wars .so I like to think that pre war refers to the gulf war. So keep the posts coming.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Rookiemonster

There has been a lot of wars .so I like to think that pre war refers to the gulf war. So keep the posts coming.

LOL. I thought it was the ongoing, continuous war currently against isis, or has that officially been declared as a war yet?

In all seriousness, having been, and currently being a moderator on a couple other non sport card forums, I know what some are talking about.

I try to do my best by not posting here very often as I currently have no post war cards, but I do read this section and have noticed, imo, where it is appropriate, like the Beaters thread, to post something that isn't pre war.

I guess, going forward, if a thread like the beaters thread is posted and it bothers some, then the OP should state, pre-war only beaters in their thread title, but at the same time, I think that is being petty and bordering on ridiculousness. (jmo)

[ashes13]

As a true collector of baseball cards (and football and basketball cards) since I was 5 years old (I am 46 now) who enjoys and collects everything from t206s, Colgans Chips,American Caramels,Tattoo Orbits, 33-41 Goudeys, 1950s Topps, Regionals, food issues, 1960s, 1970s, 1980s, all the way up to picking up current day rookie cards and packs of modern day cards (still enjoy cracking a box of 2016 topps or heritage at the start of the new season just like a kid back in 1970s and 1980s), I never quite understood how long time and real"baseball card" collectors collect ONLY pre-war or ONLY post war cards. While I can understand from time to time focusing on just an era, or just a few sets or just a player, perhaps I am in the minority, but i enjoy reading about someone's 1914 Cracker Jack pick ups as much as I like hearing about someone's 1975 Topps set. I enjoy buying a 1955 Topps Koufax rookie as much as buying a 1935 Zeenut. Pardon my ignorance, but I would be curious to hear from those who collect only pre-war, what makes a thread on 1941 Playballs so much more interesting than a thread on 1948 Bowmans or 1951 Topps Team cards? Or is it as simple as "this is the location for pre-war topics and I don't want to see or read anything about a card issued 3 years after the war ended because there is a post-war forum for that." To those pre-war only collectors, maybe seeing a thread about a 1954 Kaline rookie, is like me visiting a message board site to discuss baseball cards only to see a number of threads on women's shoes or how to cook a quiche? To me, when you get right down to it, as my wife reminds me "cards from any era are still just little photos or renderings of men on pieces of cardboard" yet we strangely all collect and treasure and pay handsomely for these pieces of cardboard with pictures of men on them.

[h2oya311]

Originally Posted by Leon

Personally, I think of pre-war as 1945 and back.....so for me it's pre-end of wwII...... no one will get a thread moved posting a baseball card from 1945 and back....

I guess I can't show off both of these in the same thread then...poop!



Or these...double poop!

[Bored5000]

I don't think it is a big deal to have pop culture threads like the death of Prince on the main board or other occasional threads that are not strictly pre-war. It's really that much of a hardship to skip over threads you are not interested in?

IMO, it is less of a nuisance to have threads like that on the main board than it is to have the same constant threads about PWCC/Probstein or the same theme recycled over and over again that eBay sucks. I would rather at least read something new rather than the same topic(s) rehashed continuously.

Edd*e Sm*th.

[Leon]

I agree with this but at the same time certainly undertsand the issue. Heck, it could be/probably is my fault. My goal is to have the place not be stagnant and a fun place to be while focusing on what we all love, the sportscard hobby. I don't think anyone can say we don't try to keep it organized. That being said Off Topics have always been allowed on the front page in moderation. That is why sometimes they get moved and sometimes not. Big news events are ok for an off topic and Princes death is big to many of us. I watched about 30 minutes to an hour of his songs yesterday. Oh, the memories. Overall I say give Peace a chance and try to put things in the correct places. And Babe says this is the way he would run the board too...except he would order up some hot dogs and hamburgers to eat between innings. Happy collecting too!!

Originally Posted by glynparson

What does it take a whole 5-10 seconds to read the title of the thread? I would rather see some off topics then have the board be stagnant with no fresh discussions. I understand there is a postwar board but i believe we all know this is the main board on this site. I too would like more prewar discussions on the prewar board but am certainly not bothered by talk of other vintage payers.

[Buythatcard]

I personally don't mind seeing post war stories pop up on this board. I like to broaden my horizons from time to time. There is always something new to learn.
How many times do we have to beat a dead horse over the same pre war stories?
Throw in a few post war stories to make things interesting. I think there are more important things in this world to complain about.

[Jobu]

I don't mind mixing things up a bit with a few post-war and ot threads. What bothers me is when people whine about T206 threads on the pre-war board, which is right where they belong.

[JustinD]

Originally Posted by Leon

I agree with this but at the same time certainly undertsand the issue. Heck, it could be/probably is my fault. My goal is to have the place not be stagnant and a fun place to be while focusing on what we all love, the sportscard hobby. I don't think anyone can say we don't try to keep it organized. That being said Off Topics have always been allowed on the front page in moderation. That is why sometimes they get moved and sometimes not. Big news events are ok for an off topic and Princes death is big to many of us. I watched about 30 minutes to an hour of his songs yesterday. Oh, the memories. Overall I say give Peace a chance and try to put things in the correct places. And Babe says this is the way he would run the board too...except he would order up some hot dogs and hamburgers to eat between innings. Happy collecting too!!

I am totally with this. I can slide by anything that does not interest me and honestly anything to do with collecting interests me.

I think we all know that if the front page was stagnant and the amount of new posts dries up people will visit less. Less visits multiplies as something else replaces it in your head and the board dies.

It has happened to many boards before and will happen again. Variety is the spice of life. The board needs traffic.

[Rookiemonster]

To improve is to change ; to be perfect is to change often

There is nothing permanent except change.

[begsu1013]

french cries and wahburgers.