Babe Ruth mitt from youth in Goldins Next Auction

[MetsBaseball1973]

Just an observation here. So many posts on hobby chat rooms like this site boil down, at their honest core, to bashing items, cards, etc..

In many of these bashing posts, there is a common denominator. The thing being bashed is expensive.

This makes me wonder how many posts are motivated deep down by jealousy, and wanting things one cannot afford.

Only a person knows the truth inside them, unless of course they are in denial. It is easy, psychologically, to see how wishing deep down that someone had something can lead to that someone bashing it.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by MetsBaseball1973

Just an observation here. So many posts on hobby chat rooms like this site boil down, at their honest core, to bashing items, cards, etc..

In many of these bashing posts, there is a common denominator. The thing being bashed is expensive.

This makes me wonder how many posts are motivated deep down by jealousy, and wanting things one cannot afford.

Only a person knows the truth inside them, unless of course they are in denial. It is easy, psychologically, to see how wishing deep down that someone had something can lead to that someone bashing it.

Or more likely we are wary of the "fish" tales that get told in this hobby. You're a fool if you're not skeptical. How much of Barry Halper's collection was just plain fraudulent? Al Stump was making instant Ty Cobb estate items out of thin air. The Hobby is healthier when questions are asked.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

Or more likely we are wary of the "fish" tales that get told in this hobby. You're a fool if you're not skeptical. How much of Barry Halper's collection was just plain fraudulent? Al Stump was making instant Ty Cobb estate items out of thin air. The Hobby is healthier when questions are asked.

Exactly. There's no need to be all that skeptical of very cheap items, like under $20 maybe more or less depending on your situation and the item.

But stuff that's going to be 10,000? Or well over 100,000? I'd want to really do my own checking on the item to spend that much.

On second thought.....Nevermind. I just realized I have the backup glove in my attic. Also for a right hander, also a kid size catchers mitt. I'll take a big hit and let it go for $75,000. Or maybe $75 if you ask nice.

Steve B

[botn]

Originally Posted by steve B

Exactly. There's no need to be all that skeptical of very cheap items, like under $20 maybe more or less depending on your situation and the item.

But stuff that's going to be 10,000? Or well over 100,000? I'd want to really do my own checking on the item to spend that much.

On second thought.....Nevermind. I just realized I have the backup glove in my attic. Also for a right hander, also a kid size catchers mitt. I'll take a big hit and let it go for $75,000. Or maybe $75 if you ask nice.

Steve B

With cards, it is the label. Does not matter if the card is floating in the holder as long as someone slabbed it and put a high grade on it. With GU stuff, I guess it is all about the story. If it sounds good and someone authenticates it, someone will be writing a check.

[botn]

As I suspected, Ron deleted his posts here and on the Piazza thread, because he was threatened by Goldin's lawyer. If you are going to question an item in Goldin's auction or question his ethics, you had better be prepared to lawyer up.

[Peter_Spaeth]

I guess the words "Cease and Desist" suggest he wasn't sending Ron a copy of the Mears report.

[botn]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I guess the words "Cease and Desist" suggest he wasn't sending Ron a copy of the Mears report.

No but to make up for that the lawyer also sent Ron's employer a copy of the C & D letter. How charming.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by MetsBaseball1973

Just an observation here. So many posts on hobby chat rooms like this site boil down, at their honest core, to bashing items, cards, etc..

In many of these bashing posts, there is a common denominator. The thing being bashed is expensive.

This makes me wonder how many posts are motivated deep down by jealousy, and wanting things one cannot afford.

Only a person knows the truth inside them, unless of course they are in denial. It is easy, psychologically, to see how wishing deep down that someone had something can lead to that someone bashing it.

I don't believe that to be the case. Rather, it's because our hobby unfortunately over the years has had numerous frauds and people's radar are justifiably up.