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Old 04-14-2016, 01:46 PM
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Do you listen to the Beatles? Are you aware of how John Lennon treated women in his lifetime? If you like the Beatles, does that mean you support that kind of thing? Or is there something in the music that you like?

They play that song Rock N Roll by Gary Glitter at a lot of sporting events. You know where Gary Glitter is now, right?

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Old 04-14-2016, 01:51 PM
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Do you listen to the Beatles? Are you aware of how John Lennon treated women in his lifetime? If you like the Beatles, does that mean you support that kind of thing? Or is there something in the music that you like?

They play that song Rock N Roll by Gary Glitter at a lot of sporting events. You know where Gary Glitter is now, right?
Not persuasive. Here, the lyrics are part of the song.
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Old 04-14-2016, 01:52 PM
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Yeah, but not everyone likes a song because of the lyrics. And liking a song says nothing about who you are. It might say something about your taste in music, but if you're suggesting everyone can be judged on their playlist I think that's a strange thing to say.

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Old 04-14-2016, 02:19 PM
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Yeah, but not everyone likes a song because of the lyrics. And liking a song says nothing about who you are. It might say something about your taste in music, but if you're suggesting everyone can be judged on their playlist I think that's a strange thing to say.
And I think it's strange to suggest that someone's preferences in music say nothing about them.
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Old 04-14-2016, 02:26 PM
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And I think it's strange to suggest that someone's preferences in music say nothing about them.
Sure it is. There has actually been a lot of studies on this that proves that the music one listens to can define their character and personality.
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Old 04-14-2016, 02:30 PM
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Yeah right. I guess that goes for television shows and movies too right? Why even get to know a person on a human level when you can just check their playlist and DVR?

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Old 04-14-2016, 02:38 PM
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Yeah right. I guess that goes for television shows and movies too right? Why even get to know a person on a human level when you can just check their playlist and DVR?
Do you realize that you've edited 8 of your last 10 posts in this thread? Just go back and look.

How about editing your posts to include your full name as per the rules?
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I follow the Nats and I believe Bryce Harper is an amazing player but I would trade him for Trout in a heartbeat. We all have different opinions on his kind of stuff and I certainly won't condemn any of that. I'm in my early 30s but tend to be an old souls with more traditionalist values when it comes to my sports. Walk up music is silly to me, this isn't Wrasslin!! I want to hear the organ played and the sounds that the crowd makes at important parts of the game. I'm just old school like that.
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A little lame to start dissecting someone's walk up music and proof of their character. Kids today listen to music that shocks their parents with bad words. And guess what. Their parents listened to music with words that shocked their parents. And their grandparents listened to Elvis and we all know how evil and subversive that guy was.
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A little lame to start dissecting someone's walk up music and proof of their character. Kids today listen to music that shocks their parents with bad words. And guess what. Their parents listened to music with words that shocked their parents. And their grandparents listened to Elvis and we all know how evil and subversive that guy was.
There is a world of difference IMO between some sexual suggestiveness and blatant misogyny, sorry.
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Next time I see you guys playing checkers outside the Cracker Barrel make sure to say hi.
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Next time I see you guys playing checkers outside the Cracker Barrel make sure to say hi.
You will probably miss us because we get up before noon. JK
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There is a world of difference IMO between some sexual suggestiveness and blatant misogyny, sorry.
Agreed. But the prior comment about The Beatles is still germane. Song lyrics that threaten homicide against a woman (or rather "little girl") out of sexual jealousy are at least as misogynistic as lyrics that objectify women as in Harper's walk-up song.

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Agreed. But the prior comment about The Beatles is still germane. Song lyrics that threaten homicide against a woman (or rather "little girl") out of sexual jealousy are at least as misogynistic as lyrics that objectify women as in Harper's walk-up song.
Calling someone a little girl in the context of the 60s is not the same, to me, as calling someone a bitch or ho today when it is universally understood that such terms are degrading. It's intentional.

We can be PC and cool and say oh it's all relative and it's just the times etc. but I strongly disagree.

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Calling someone a little girl in the context of the 60s is not the same, to me, as calling someone a bitch or ho today when it is universally understood that such terms are degrading. It's intentional.

We can be PC and cool and say oh it's all relative and it's just the times etc. but I strongly disagree.
The offending lyric isn't the "little girl" part.

"I'd rather see you dead, little girl, than to be with another man...catch you with another man, that's the end. ...I mean everything I've said. Baby, I'm determined and I'd rather see you dead."

Let's see that get played in an NFL stadium today.
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