Kris Bryant overrated?... too soon for they hype?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by packs

Like I said, you're grasping at straws man. I thought it was obvious I was talking about the things that go into a shift and positioning your players on the field. Along with head to head ratios against specific pitchers on your roster.

Let us keep in mind the original statement that sparked my response. This is all I was replying to.

"It doesn't matter how good you are, no one can survive in the league or experience prolonged success striking out more times than they get a hit. "

I think YOU are the one grasping at straws now realizing that as stated it was an overstatement.

[packs]

I guess time will tell, won't it? Today's game is totally different from the players you've brought up. None of them faced the advanced stats Bryant will have to play against. It is a new game.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by packs

I guess time will tell, won't it? Today's game is totally different from the players you've brought up. None of them faced the advanced stats Bryant will have to play against. It is a new game.

Were you not arguing with me not too long ago though that we don't need those stats to know how good players are?

[packs]

In a general sense, no. I can look at Bryant's K rate and know he won't succeed. But I'm not managing a team and trying to get him out, am I?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by packs

In a general sense, no. I can look at Bryant's K rate and know he won't succeed. But I'm not managing a team and trying to get him out, am I?

What do you think of Trout? He has a pretty high K rate although of course not as high as Bryant's (so far).

[packs]

Trout is fine. Power isn't his only game. He does a lot of other things well, like get on base.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by packs

Trout is fine. Power isn't his only game. He does a lot of other things well, like get on base.

We agree there.

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

What do you think of Trout? He has a pretty high K rate although of course not as high as Bryant's (so far).

That is a good comparison of the best you can expect, but Trout also benefits from a high BABIP. Yet his can be explained by more Line Drives compared to Fly Balls.

Trout FB%=38.5%
Bryant FB% = 45.4%

Ground Ball to Fly Ball ratio:
Trout = 1.02
Bryant = .75

My theory is that Bryant with his upper cut swing can't maintain his 2015 numbers. His dad ingrained him with this swing, it is great for hitting home runs but it isn't great for getting on base.

[sbfinley]

High five to the person who in response to the BEST PLAYER IN THE GAME stated "he'll be alright - he does more than hit for power."