1980 Topps Rickey Henderson RC PSA 10 or BGS 9.5/10 card for review.

[CTDean]

Originally Posted by murphy8276

Which corner are you referring to out of curiosity so I can take a look at it? I know I saw a 9.5 with a pretty bad corner hit for a 9.5 IMO so I pulled up the ebay auction.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1980-Topps-R...YAAOSwvgdW2Mrj



I am not saying they would grade another that way, but definitely I have no corners like that.

Thank you for the feedback so far guys.

Does the holder look frosted to anyone else? Maybe Mexico?

[murphy8276]

Originally Posted by CTDean

It is really hard to judge the Henderson from the photo. I use a loupe to check the corners of my cards and have pretty good success in selecting 10's. I have even better success eliminating the 8's and 9's before I blow the grading fee. You able to eliminate cards that look like a 10, but under the loupe have some issues. You can get a 30 x 21MM Jewelers Loupe on ebay for $6.50 to $6.75 with free shipping. The cost of one PSA sub.

Have a loupe as well as its a necessity to match PSA's guidelines. This one is good to go. I just wanted some opinions on where is best to submit this one and if I have any shot at all at a 10 or 9.5 since it is so far fetched usually for this card.


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Just in case that BGS 9.5 is a bad card frosting/manufactured as you are suggesting.

Here is a side by side next to two PSA 10's I could find online. One is on PSA's website so they believe Dimitri Young's upper right touched corner and off-center fit the bill...The back is also off quite a bit.

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[ashes13]

Its a great looking card. Most really nice 9s are almost impossible to distinguish from 10s in my opinion and from the 10s and 9s I have looked at. In my opinion, you have a better chance of winning the lottery, then PSA giving you a 10 on that card, unless you are an auction house or you do big volume with them. I know it shouldnt matter who the submitter is, but count me in the group who believes it does matter.
I hope I am wrong and you get a 10. Looks like a solid 9, but it wouldnt surprise me if it even came back an 8 or 8.5.

[CTDean]

Originally Posted by ashes13

Its a great looking card. Most really nice 9s are almost impossible to distinguish from 10s in my opinion and from the 10s and 9s I have looked at. In my opinion, you have a better chance of winning the lottery, then PSA giving you a 10 on that card, unless you are an auction house or you do big volume with them. I know it shouldnt matter who the submitter is, but count me in the group who believes it does matter.
I hope I am wrong and you get a 10. Looks like a solid 9, but it wouldnt surprise me if it even came back an 8 or 8.5.

+1 (On it matters who submits the card, even though it shouldn't).

It is a nice card and I would go with PSA. Biggest lottery payout.

[pokerplyr80]

To the part of your question regarding service and fee level I would estimate the value raw. Even though a 10 is worth 30k or whatever it's not a 10 yet. Raw it's worth 100 or 200. Submit accordingly to save on the fees. It's very hard to get a 10 so hope for the best but don't be surprised if it comes back an 8 or 9.

[TheNightmanCometh]

Once pulled a Henderson from a pack of 80's Topps. Card look exactly like that except all the cards had a nick on the bottom right corner. Suffice it to say, I was bummed.

[murphy8276]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

To the part of your question regarding service and fee level I would estimate the value raw. Even though a 10 is worth 30k or whatever it's not a 10 yet. Raw it's worth 100 or 200. Submit accordingly to save on the fees. It's very hard to get a 10 so hope for the best but don't be surprised if it comes back an 8 or 9.

Thanks for answering this. I will send at the $18 level then, but hope for a call back to me accordingly to raise it to $700! (this is what I was told would happen should you hit a goldmine card like this)

Thanks guys for all the support and comments so far. I think PSA is the correct choice, I just had noticed a little more lenience with BGS giving some 9.5's easier than the PSA 10(which is worth a heck of a lot more) so maybe I will try PSA and if it lands a 9 because it is in the middle of 9-10 I will send to BGS afterwards hoping for an upgrade.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by murphy8276

Thanks for answering this. I will send at the $18 level then, but hope for a call back to me accordingly to raise it to $700! (this is what I was told would happen should you hit a goldmine card like this)

Thanks guys for all the support and comments so far. I think PSA is the correct choice, I just had noticed a little more lenience with BGS giving some 9.5's easier than the PSA 10(which is worth a heck of a lot more) so maybe I will try PSA and if it lands a 9 because it is in the middle of 9-10 I will send to BGS afterwards hoping for an upgrade.

I had the same question when I first submitted a raw card to PSA. I was told by PSA if I was lucky enough to hit the "jackpot" and get a 10 on a similar card they would contact me to see if i want to pay for additional insurance in return shipping. They will not charge you for the higher service level.

And yes that card is worth a lot more in a PSA 10 holder than a BGS or BVG 9.5. I would agree that trying for that first is the best strategy. Good luck.

[sbfinley]

My uneducated opinion. 70% chance of a 9. 25% chance of a 8. 5% chance of a 10. Just sub it repeatedly until it hits. Plenty have done it and plenty will.

Originally Posted by CTDean

Does the holder look frosted to anyone else? Maybe Mexico?

I've yet to encounter a compromised BGS holder. If they're that good, more power to them.