Babe Ruth mitt from youth in Goldins Next Auction

[sbfinley]

Originally Posted by WindyCityGameUsed

EXCELLENT POST!!!!

My Point Exactly Spot On

IMO from what I have seen in the hobby over the years is that memorabilia in general doesn't have to be AUTHENTIC/GAME USED anymore, memorabilia only needs to meet the unwritten industry standard of being plausible authentic to cover sellers backsides from retrobution.

If your going to spend hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands don’t you think items being sold should meet a standard of more than just being plausible???

Considering I based my "plausible" opinion from reading an article on a phone at a 5 year old's birthday party, yeah plausible should be enough of a standard for this item.

[btcarfagno]

Not to pile on or anything, but lot #68 was not worn by Ted Williams. This piece originated from the Halper collection (bad start). Research that I did proves that Wliams did not wear uniform #9 during this series. Whether Williams thinks he did or not is irrelevant. He didn't. This is someone else's uniform.

Tom C

[jsage]

Originally Posted by btcarfagno

Not to pile on or anything, but lot #68 was not worn by Ted Williams. This piece originated from the Halper collection (bad start). Research that I did proves that Wliams did not wear uniform #9 during this series. Whether Williams thinks he did or not is irrelevant. He didn't. This is someone else's uniform.

Tom C

What uniform # did Ted Williams wear in the series?
Jerry Sage

[Shoeless Moe]

Did anyone see the mention the Piazza 9/11 jersey got on the Sports Reporters on ESPN today?

They couldn't believe the Mets sold it.

[btcarfagno]

Originally Posted by jsage

What uniform # did Ted Williams wear in the series?
Jerry Sage

He wore #23. Stan Musial wore #14.

Tom C

[ooo-ribay]

Well, Barry Bonds is the all time HR leader, anyway.

[sbfinley]

Originally Posted by btcarfagno

He wore #23. Stan Musial wore #14.

Tom C

I know this is true for the 45' series, but what about 43' (not sure if they played one in 44'). If I remember correctly #9 in the 45' series was attributed to a college player (Oregon State maybe). I'm not defending the jersey, just questioning.

[btcarfagno]

Originally Posted by sbfinley

I know this is true for the 45' series, but what about 43' (not sure if they played one in 44'). If I remember correctly #9 in the 45' series was attributed to a college player (Oregon State maybe). I'm not defending the jersey, just questioning.

Is there anything that dates this jersey to a specific year? The photo provided was from the 1945 series where he wore #23, and Williams erroneously states that it is the jersey in the picture. Nothing in the item description says that another person wore #9 in one of the possible years for the jersey. Also notable that there is no authentication provided.

Adding in the fact that it hails from the collection of Barry Halper and anyone who buys the jersey thinking Williams actually wore it is deluding himself.

Tom C

[David Atkatz]

Originally Posted by btcarfagno

Adding in the fact that it hails from the collection of Barry Halper and anyone who buys the jersey thinking Williams actually wore it is deluding himself.

Tom C

Ditto the "Ruth" mitt.

[sbfinley]

Originally Posted by btcarfagno

Is there anything that dates this jersey to a specific year? The photo provided was from the 1945 series where he wore #23, and Williams erroneously states that it is the jersey in the picture. Nothing in the item description says that another person wore #9 in one of the possible years for the jersey. Also notable that there is no authentication provided.

Adding in the fact that it hails from the collection of Barry Halper and anyone who buys the jersey thinking Williams actually wore it is deluding himself.

Tom C

By stating "attributed" I was recalling a lineup or scorecard I've seen from the series. I only asked the date because there were multiple series and one of the Williams "letters" mentions 1943. The 43 series was on the east coast, but I think they wore jerseys with trimmed letters. If that style of Jersey was only worn in 45, then yeah it wasn't worn by Williams.