eBay situtation. You can all draw your own conclusions

[ullmandds]

Unfortunately this type of scenario is allowed and seems to be encouraged by eBay based on their awful rules. I most certainly hope that you can get some type of satisfaction from eBay but I doubt it.

No one wants to take accountability anymore in society.

[JustinD]

This whole experience sucks and this is one dealer that is 100% off my list.

I must say that you are assisting this delirium by having such an easily searched profile. The reason that many of us use the oddly written name descriptions are that to a human they are easily deciphered, however to a search engine it is unusable.

The seller was looking for an out and googled your name, city and state and found all your personal thoughts. He used this information to support his "Area 51" theories.

It is best to be an anonymous buyer than to play poker with your cards face up to a stranger.

I think if the googling had not lead him to the trough that fed unjustified fears you would have your item and the seller would have been frustrated, but in today's market he did receive a decent price.

[SyrNy1960]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

No one wants to take accountability anymore in society.

+1

[vintagetoppsguy]

Even though the seller cancelled the listing, you should still be allowed to leave feedback. Neg his sorry butt and move on.

[Leon]

Jimmy Allen, the seller, said he is an honest seller. His message seems to indicate otherwise. And the more we spell out his name in this thread the more googling will help others know how he really is. I also like the fact Jimmy Allen is professing law to one of the best lawyers I know.

[ksabet]

As a collector, this just makes me sad. I hate that something so innocent from my childhood has turned into this.

I am not in any way chiding the OP and actually agree with him 100% but I can't help but shake my head that people can't just buy, sell and enjoy anymore.


This isn't the first crazy buyer/seller story and won't be the last but makes me second guess why I don't collect My Little Pony like my 5-year-old daughter. She still smiles overtime she gets one. I am left wondering if what I have is real, fake or some combination of the two.

[SMPEP]

I think Jimmy Allen just lost a lot of business. Can't imagine many on here will ever deal with him again. Hope he calculated the "loss' on this one item, versus the "loss" on whatever else he hopes to sell.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by SMPEP

Can't imagine many on here will ever deal with him again.

People still deal with Probstein
People still deal with the grading companies
People still deal with ...(fill in the blank)

Stuff trumps morals.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

People still deal with Probstein
People still deal with the grading companies
People still deal with ...(fill in the blank)

Stuff trumps morals.

Sad but true.

[Rookiemonster]

First off let me start by saying I WANT IN ON THE SUPER SECRET COLLRCTORS TRUST !!!!!!

Second this guy is so full of it .


That is all ...

[ElCabron]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Stuff trumps morals.

This is true for some, but not all. I can tell you that I, for one, will not be bidding on any of Jimmy Allen's items, based on the shady dealing he just had with Kenny, and I was planning to bid on many. Like Jimmy Allen himself said, the group of us that collects the specific kind of items he is currently selling is relatively small. But I had no idea that Kenny was bidding on that photo, and the idea that all of us got together and colluded to allow Kenny to win it at below market value isn't something even Jimmy Allen couldn't really believe. He just needs some excuse to justify backing out of this deal to sell it privately for more money, which is almost certainly what he did. Jimmy Allen might win this battle, but he will lose this war. Good luck selling the rest of those Negro League photos on ebay for what you consider to be market prices. Looks like it's private sales for you from now on. I'll be sure to warn other collectors so they don't get burned in private.

Thanks, Kenny, for bringing this scumbag to our attention. Had he not screwed you and had you not gone public with it, I might have gotten screwed as well. A lot of us might have.

-Ryan

[53Browns]

What a little girl! Maybe this moron should look up the definition of "auction"!

[Marckus99]

Sorry you came out on the wrong side of this.
I wish there was a way the seller could be held accountable.

Just sent the seller a short message - as we should all do.
And indeed, Karma is a bitch.

- Mark

[Rickyy]

What a B.S. trying to turn it around to make it look like the bidders are at fault.... sorry to hear this Kenny...you got hosed.

Ricky Y

[SyrNy1960]

Odd how people try to justify things in their own mind, so they believe what they did is ok. Bottom line, he won the auction fair and square (by auction rules) and the seller must honor that! Seller should have put a reserve on it. By failing to do so, you get what you get. Jerk move!

[Republicaninmass]

Seller can always say he made a pricing error, and it should have been a reserve auction. It's hard for me to believe in a retail business, these practices exist. It's a terrible model to grow a business. Lose a customer, and possibly more for life, over a few hundred bucks. It's amazing how short sighted people are.

[SyrNy1960]

It also funny how when you do it to others, it's ok. But when it's done to you, not so much!

[7nohitter]

Originally Posted by 3arod13

It also funny how when you do it to others, it's ok. But when it's done to you, not so much!

Am I missing something?

[SyrNy1960]

Originally Posted by 7nohitter

Am I missing something?

Meaning that what the seller to the buyer, which he is justifying; if you reserved it and it happened to him, he wouldn't be so accepting of it.

[bcbgcbrcb]

Just read this thread, didn't really know the topic behind it previously. Sorry to see the injustice that happened to you, Kenny.

I must have been pretty good at making advance predictions in order to set up this collusion scheme targeting the Washington panorama that wasn't listed yet when I posted about the current state of the Negro League collectibles market. Almost takes you back to the MLB Free Agency days of the 1980's, huh?

[Kenny Cole]

Originally Posted by bcbgcbrcb

I must have been pretty good at making advance predictions in order to set up this collusion scheme targeting the Washington panorama that wasn't listed yet when I posted about the current state of the Negro League collectibles market. Almost takes you back to the MLB Free Agency days of the 1980's, huh?

Phil,

From here on out, should I just call you Nostradamus?

Kenny

[irishdenny]

Jimmy Allen Races Wheel Chairs
When He's Not Stiffin Good Folks on Ebay!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TryEBBUJiUM

Jimmy, Now that Your Theory is Out!
Whatcha gonna do bout it?

You certainly can't Race Wheel Chairs!!!

Ohhh, Becha that Nose tastes just like the Nose Dive Your Business is gonna Take!
Why don't ya come on here and Xplain Some of Your other Theories to us...
Like, How your this really honest guy who stuck in Awful ebay sellin world
& you just can't figure out why you keep wake'n up in the middle of the nite tastin snot while you just lost a wheel chair race

edited to say: Sorry folks ~ I just lost my mind after read'n how Jimmy Allen just figured out how to Cancel an Ebay Auction...

[iowadoc77]

Another classic from irishdenny!