E-Bay purchase?

[irv]

Originally Posted by the 'stache

That's understandable. Just remember, though, unless it's a rare card, or something you really want in a condition that's exceptional, meaning there will be a lot of competition, there will always be another example of the same card at the same price, or close to it, soon. Patience is the one thing that will come with collecting more. '52 Topps cards will always have higher demand, as it's Topps' first full set, but I have to believe that there are still a lot of them out there. If you're not building a plus condition set, you're going to have a lot of sellers to choose from. Some of the high series cards will be more costly, but as you go, you'll learn what to expect, and what the cards will cost.

You'll be fine. I'm looking forward to seeing your '52 set come along. It's a classic! Myself, I'm concentrating on the T206 set, the '53 Bowman and '75 Topps. That will keep me plenty busy.

Cheers!

Thanks again for the advise and encouragement, Stache.

Patience is something I definitely didn't have when it came to this card, and like you mentioned, more came up shortly after I won this current one.

I was fortunate enough to be given the cards I have, and although some are likely worth a decent buck, it still doesn't afford me to purchase at will on the ones I don't have.

I'll pick away at it here and there and maybe, hopefully, pick up a lot or 2 along the way and add to it what I can in hopes of one day turning it over to my son for him to carry on, just like it was to me, (or help pay for his secondary education if I have to?)

I've been reading/researching a lot trying to learn as much as I can about the 52 Topps cards and the rest of the hobby and I think I got a head of myself trying to play catch up for all the years I missed?

The important part is, I am having fun doing it (although there was a bump recently on some cards I wanted, and still want) but I'm learning as I go and I'm enjoying myself.

Thanks again for your advice and input, I appreciate it!

Good luck with your sets too!

[the 'stache]

Originally Posted by irv

Thanks again for the advise and encouragement, Stache.

Patience is something I definitely didn't have when it came to this card, and like you mentioned, more came up shortly after I won this current one.

I was fortunate enough to be given the cards I have, and although some are likely worth a decent buck, it still doesn't afford me to purchase at will on the ones I don't have.

I'll pick away at it here and there and maybe, hopefully, pick up a lot or 2 along the way and add to it what I can in hopes of one day turning it over to my son for him to carry on, just like it was to me, (or help pay for his secondary education if I have to?)

I've been reading/researching a lot trying to learn as much as I can about the 52 Topps cards and the rest of the hobby and I think I got a head of myself trying to play catch up for all the years I missed?

The important part is, I am having fun doing it (although there was a bump recently on some cards I wanted, and still want) but I'm learning as I go and I'm enjoying myself.

Thanks again for your advice and input, I appreciate it!

Good luck with your sets too!

As long as you're having fun, you've in the right frame of mind, and everything else will come in time.

Remember, collecting isn't a competition. It can be easy to get swept up by the purchases other members might make, but you're not in a foot race to the finish line. You are doing this for you. Do it at your own pace. Never feel pressured to meet some arbitrary deadline. If you tell yourself "I have to have x number of cards by y date, then it's no longer a hobby, but a chore. Inheriting some cards to start out with is always a great way to start, because you can feel what a collection is going to be like, and when you ultimately do reach the end, you'll have a very special set comprised of cards you bought, and ones received from somebody else special to you. What you do from that point is up to you. You can always sell the set, take the proceeds, and start working on another set. Or, you can put it aside, let it appreciate further, and either sell it, or pass it down to a son, if you have one.

You might be in the same boat I am. I don't have nearly the financial resources some other members have at their disposal, so I have to pick and choose my battles. If, by some small miracle, this stem cell procedure I'm going to have on my back in another year and a half fixes my back, I can go back to work as a stockbroker, and then the funds will be there to do whatever I want. In the mean time, I have to play it smart, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

I work a little on one set, then switch it up a bit, and work on another. I'll likely choose to stick with one of the three sets I named before too long (I think the '53 Bowman color set might be the one, as it's a smaller set, and outside of a handful of cards, it's reasonably priced. Of course, I like the 1975 set a lot, and it contains the rookie of one of my two favorite players, so I can justify the expense for that card!) The cool thing about collecting cards is you set the rules, the pace, and you can do as much, or as little, as you want. You can take little breaks, and then come back refreshed. If something comes up where you can't buy for a while, you can share in the fun other collectors are having. Believe you me, it helps.

If you ever have any questions, or just want to bounce an idea or three off of somebody, as I like to say, my inbox is always open. You're always welcome to send me a message whenever you need to talk to somebody, or if you just want to talk collecting. Remember, there aren't any stupid questions. Knowledge is power in this hobby.

Bill

[irv]

Originally Posted by the 'stache

As long as you're having fun, you've in the right frame of mind, and everything else will come in time.

Remember, collecting isn't a competition. It can be easy to get swept up by the purchases other members might make, but you're not in a foot race to the finish line. You are doing this for you. Do it at your own pace. Never feel pressured to meet some arbitrary deadline. If you tell yourself "I have to have x number of cards by y date, then it's no longer a hobby, but a chore. Inheriting some cards to start out with is always a great way to start, because you can feel what a collection is going to be like, and when you ultimately do reach the end, you'll have a very special set comprised of cards you bought, and ones received from somebody else special to you. What you do from that point is up to you. You can always sell the set, take the proceeds, and start working on another set. Or, you can put it aside, let it appreciate further, and either sell it, or pass it down to a son, if you have one.

You might be in the same boat I am. I don't have nearly the financial resources some other members have at their disposal, so I have to pick and choose my battles. If, by some small miracle, this stem cell procedure I'm going to have on my back in another year and a half fixes my back, I can go back to work as a stockbroker, and then the funds will be there to do whatever I want. In the mean time, I have to play it smart, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

I work a little on one set, then switch it up a bit, and work on another. I'll likely choose to stick with one of the three sets I named before too long (I think the '53 Bowman color set might be the one, as it's a smaller set, and outside of a handful of cards, it's reasonably priced. Of course, I like the 1975 set a lot, and it contains the rookie of one of my two favorite players, so I can justify the expense for that card!) The cool thing about collecting cards is you set the rules, the pace, and you can do as much, or as little, as you want. You can take little breaks, and then come back refreshed. If something comes up where you can't buy for a while, you can share in the fun other collectors are having. Believe you me, it helps.

If you ever have any questions, or just want to bounce an idea or three off of somebody, as I like to say, my inbox is always open. You're always welcome to send me a message whenever you need to talk to somebody, or if you just want to talk collecting. Remember, there aren't any stupid questions. Knowledge is power in this hobby.

Bill

Thanks again for your input/thoughts/advice, Stache, and good luck with your stem cell procedure on your back! That can't be pleasant having to deal with that issue day in day out!

I also appreciate your offer! That is one I'll definitely take you up on.

Take care.

Dale

[irv]

I finally received my card today and just like I thought, the back was damaged.

Likely not going to pursue this any further, as, like I said, it is entirely my fault.

Some onus I believe is on the seller for not fully disclosing this damage but maybe that part is covered in their "poor" description?
(New computer so not sure how scans are going to turn out? Still getting use to Windows 10. Any help would be appreciated as I see the scans are small)

[Abeabe]

Taking the global shipping out of eqasion, I think $11 is a fair winning bid. As far as deceptive selling technique, I would make sure to point out flaws like that because my 100% positive is important to me, but obviously other sellers hope to make a few bucks by misleading buyers. Good luck on the set, some of those cards tend to get expensive

[pokerplyr80]

It's hard to say the card wasn't as described if it was listed as poor. However, purposely leaving the paper loss on the back out of the description and not including a scan of the back seems deceptive to me. My feedback rating and comments would reflect this.

I don't think it would be worth it to return the card even if you lived in America. From Canada it would probably be cost prohibitive.

[tschock]

Originally Posted by irv

I finally received my card today and just like I thought, the back was damaged.

Likely not going to pursue this any further, as, like I said, it is entirely my fault.

Some onus I believe is on the seller for not fully disclosing this damage but maybe that part is covered in their "poor" description?
(New computer so not sure how scans are going to turn out? Still getting use to Windows 10. Any help would be appreciated as I see the scans are small)

As back damage goes, that is a pretty nice "poor" condition card. If it were me in this situation with everything you described, I would not be overly upset at myself for missing it. There are poor condition cards and there are POOR condition cards (and backs), and the damage on this one doesn't affect any 'critical' information on the card. Obviously, my opinion but it's not as hard of an $11/$32 lesson as it could have been.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Abeabe

Taking the global shipping out of eqasion, I think $11 is a fair winning bid. As far as deceptive selling technique, I would make sure to point out flaws like that because my 100% positive is important to me, but obviously other sellers hope to make a few bucks by misleading buyers. Good luck on the set, some of those cards tend to get expensive

I agree, should have been listed that there was paper loss but I assume they thought if they just listed it as poor, then they would be covered?

Their reviews reflect this questionable shadiness imo, and if I was smarter at the time, I would have seen that and walked away.

Thanks

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

It's hard to say the card wasn't as described if it was listed as poor. However, purposely leaving the paper loss on the back out of the description and not including a scan of the back seems deceptive to me. My feedback rating and comments would reflect this.

I don't think it would be worth it to return the card even if you lived in America. From Canada it would probably be cost prohibitive.

I agree.

Originally Posted by tschock

As back damage goes, that is a pretty nice "poor" condition card. If it were me in this situation with everything you described, I would not be overly upset at myself for missing it. There are poor condition cards and there are POOR condition cards (and backs), and the damage on this one doesn't affect any 'critical' information on the card. Obviously, my opinion but it's not as hard of an $11/$32 lesson as it could have been.

I agree also, could have been much worse than what it is. I like the looks of the front. It is decently centered and not in too bad of condition overall so it will fit in nicely with my collection.

$32.00 dollar lesson learned, and no more cards purchased from this "Mom and Pop" operation for me!

Thanks guys.