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Old 03-13-2016, 09:48 PM
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Completing those sets is an great accomplishment. Thanks for sharing the story Ted. I only own 1 T206 and doubt I would ever attempt such a large task as the Monster but I greatly admire those that have set out to accomplish something as ambitious as this and succeeded.
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Old 03-13-2016, 11:09 PM
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What is a "poor man's" Joe Doyle error card?
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I got fatigued with my effort ending at 100. I have since sold off more than half...clearing the way for me to upgrade my Mantle and Koufax cards.

I think I lost my appetite for T206 when I realized how different my choices (PSA-5 or better) were from from most of the collectors on this forum.

From what I have witnessed, most would rather have a dog-eaten copy with a rarer back than a beautiful Piedmont. I just cannot bring myself to have any poor condition cards in my collection.
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Old 03-13-2016, 11:42 PM
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What is a "poor man's" Joe Doyle error card?
The poor man's version has DOYLE, N.Y. while the very rare one reads 'DOYLE, N.Y. NAT'L'
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Old 03-14-2016, 12:07 AM
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Default Started the set around 1984 with Jack Bastian, Piedmont back.

Sat with three cards for three decades. For some reason I hung on to these three cards. Liquidating my childhood, and then some, collection in 1985 to "fund" a divorce attorney, the collection bug bit me again in 2012 around the time I formally retired from the work force, moving to the Eastern Sierras. There is not a card shop or show within 225 miles of our place, so I acquired the next 515 cards, with duplicates, thru Internet auctions and the BST here on Net54.

I called my collection the Old Fool collection, the graded cards I once owned still reflect on the SGC Registry. Guess I should take it down. Too bad SGC doesn't offer a retired feature like PSA. I sold the set thru LOTG last year.

Sure miss my Cobbs. So I guess I'll be happy with Mr Clemente for now.
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Old 03-14-2016, 06:26 AM
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What is a "poor man's" Joe Doyle error card?

Sean

A small percentage of the regular Joe Doyle cards have a small "printer's mark" on its caption exactly where the "N" of "Nat'l"
was originally printed.

I posted a thread on this back in 2007, in which this mark was discussed and we arrived at the conclusion that in their haste to
erase the word "Nat'l" from their printing plate, American Litho left this mark. Shortly thereafter they removed it. I ran a 4-year
survey of Joe Doyle cards....upon sampling 364 cards, only 22 of them had this printer's mark (6 %).

Anyhow, here is a scan of Joe Doyle with this printer's mark......



PRINTER's MARK............../\



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Old 03-14-2016, 10:46 AM
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Got to 520 last year with a mostly low-grade set. For me, this site was what was really the catalyst for it and I doubt I would have pursued that set without it. Seeing all of the photos, back combinations, etc., of cards owned by members was too much to resist.

Initially, I put it together as an investment while consolidating my collection drastically. But in all honesty, it will be hard for me to ever give them up. I've even started hanging onto my duplicates now so that if the time comes where I need to sell, I can start with those! I thumb through my binder nearly every day, am constantly upgrading cards, and am fascinated by them.

I'm not saying I'd never sell them. After all, it's still only cardboard. But for me, they've really gone from an investment to a personal treasure.
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Great thread. I can tell you that by 1970 may dad already had 510 cards from the set. He was 30 years old that year and used to buy T206's in lots. Bought his first Wagner in '72 and another in '74. Not sure what year he actually "completed" the set but it was during that period. He had at least one variation of every card, including the Magee error and several other oddities.

At the bottom is his bio from "Who's Who in Card Collecting" from 1970:

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Great thread. I can tell you that by 1970 may dad already had 510 cards from the set. He was 30 years old that year and used to buy T206's in lots. Bought his first Wagner in '72 and another in '74. Not sure what year he actually "completed" the set but it was during that period. He had at least one variation of every card, including the Magee error and several other oddities.

At the bottom is his bio from "Who's Who in Card Collecting" from 1970:

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Great story....I met your Dad in the early 1980's at a BB card show. I still have the photographic quality BB card sets he produced in the late 1970's.


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Here is a page out of my all PIEDMONT set. The cards are arranged in order of the T206 series timeline (150..350..So Lge..350/460..460-only).
All my T206 sets are in loose leaf binders.












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Great story....I met your Dad in the early 1980's at a BB card show. I still have the photographic quality BB card sets he produced in the late 1970's.
Those are great sets! Do you remember if he was a dealer at that show, or just walking the floor?
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Got to 520 last year with a mostly low-grade set. For me, this site was what was really the catalyst for it and I doubt I would have pursued that set without it. Seeing all of the photos, back combinations, etc., of cards owned by members was too much to resist.

Initially, I put it together as an investment while consolidating my collection drastically. But in all honesty, it will be hard for me to ever give them up. I've even started hanging onto my duplicates now so that if the time comes where I need to sell, I can start with those! I thumb through my binder nearly every day, am constantly upgrading cards, and am fascinated by them.

I'm not saying I'd never sell them. After all, it's still only cardboard. But for me, they've really gone from an investment to a personal treasure.

Hey guy

Your story is a great one, thanks for sharing it with us. And, I'm glad to hear that these cards are in a binder.

With all due respect to T206 collectors who have every one of their cards graded, I personally love to flip thru the plastic pages
of my sets. I don't think I would enjoy these cards as much if they stacked up (or sideways) within solid plastic holders.

Sure, I have some graded T206's in my sets; but, these were graded when I acquired them (especially HOFer's, certain stars, or
scarce backs).


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Old 03-17-2016, 10:48 AM
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Hey guy

Your story is a great one, thanks for sharing it with us. And, I'm glad to hear that these cards are in a binder.

With all due respect to T206 collectors who have every one of their cards graded, I personally love to flip thru the plastic pages
of my sets. I don't think I would enjoy these cards as much if they stacked up (or sideways) within solid plastic holders.

Sure, I have some graded T206's in my sets; but, these were graded when I acquired them (especially HOFer's, certain stars, or
scarce backs).


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Thanks, Ted - I can't tell you how much more I enjoy them in a binder than in the Card Savers I used to keep my stuff in. They are much more enjoyable to look at in there for me and just makes them more accessible. The only ones in slabs are my Cobbs and Demmitt/O'Hara.

I'd probably feel different if my cards were in better shape but for my low-grade set (mostly P-G with some VGs), it works well for me.

And man, that Sovereign page of yours is gorgeous.
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Completing those sets is an great accomplishment. Thanks for sharing the story Ted. I only own 1 T206 and doubt I would ever attempt such a large task as the Monster but I greatly admire those that have set out to accomplish something as ambitious as this and succeeded.
Hi Dustin

Thanks for your kind words. Once you start collecting these white-bordered cards you are "hooked". The Monster has you. I guess it's why I continue putting together sets.

I liken this to those classic lyrics in that popular 1970's Eagles song......

"you can check-out any time you like; but, you can never leave"


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