Try arranging your T206 set with respect to its various Series..150..350..460, etc.

[DixieBaseball]

Ted,

Thanks for sharing your knowledge -

Have you ever lined up the 68 1910 Coupons and cross referenced the 20 SLer's to see if any pattern emerges? Just curious if there is any trends with respect to the 48/20 Coupon Type 1's to the 150/350 series, Hindu SLer's, etc.

Keep it Classy,

JJ

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by DixieBaseball

Ted,

Thanks for sharing your knowledge -

Have you ever lined up the 68 1910 Coupons and cross referenced the 20 SLer's to see if any pattern emerges? Just curious if there is any trends with respect to the 48/20 Coupon Type 1's to the 150/350 series, Hindu SLer's, etc.

Keep it Classy,

JJ

Hi Jeremy....here you go, see if this works for you.

The Major Leaguers....my theory is that American Litho (ALC) was in the midst of press runs (circa early Spring of 1910) producing the 48 - T206's shown here.
Concurrent with these T206 press runs, ALC also printed these 48 guys on thinner cardboard stock** for the limited production of the 1910 COUPON issue.


Major Leaguers (48 subjects)






Southern Association (20 subjects)

Concurrent with the above press runs, ALC was also printing sheets of the Southern Leaguers for their PIEDMONT 350 press runs. During this process, ALC also
printed (on thinner stock) the 20 subjects of the Southern Association needed for the 1910 COUPON issue.







** NOTE
The reason for the "thinner cardboard stock" was because the 1910 COUPON cards were not intended to serve as Cigarette pack stiffeners.
This appears to be a valid theory since no such packs labelled "COUPON" Cigarettes have ever been found. And, I don't think they exist.


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[DixieBaseball]

Ted,
Thanks for your thoughts. Those 68 can easily be run in a 150 / 350 series print run, so it's entirely plausible, that they changed the card stock when printing those 48 / 20 for the Coupons Type 1's. I think about this... We know those cards were made in 1910. So there was a reason they were made, and we know they were distributed in the deep South, most likely out of the Irby Branch in New Orleans, La. area (See Postcard of New Orleans Retailer with scores of Coupon Boxes which I think contained 5 cartons of Coupon 100's cigarettes) So, discerning why there was thin card stock could be multiple reasons, but I am warming up to your theory of them simply putting a type 1 coupon on the horizontal end of the Coupon Carton. My Carton has a shadow where something the size of a Coupon card was residing, and it probably was taped on there as you suggested, and with the scores of Coupons found with missing paper at the top middle, but the rest of the card is in really good shape, makes me really start buying into the limited production theory of these cards were distributed in a limited fashion in location (Deep South) and distributed in limited fashion upon marketing/release. (Instead of packs, they were on Cartons) - Your ATC theory is an interesting one. We may be in the right direction on the Coupons, so more time is needed to help prove the theory right or wrong. Thnx for your contribution!

[tedzan]

Jeremy

In Post #37 of your recent thread "Love me some paper thin (T213-1) Coupons" you show your long carton with the "spot" (upper right corner)
that clearly coincides with the paper loss on the backs of many of the 1910 COUPON cards. Please post this scan again......thanks.

Also, the 48 cards of the Major Leaguers were derived from ALC's print runs during their 350-only series (early Spring of 1910).


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[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Jantz

Hi Ted

Since I'm building a set slightly different than others, here is how I have my set arranged.

1 box - Southern Leaguers
2 boxes - Polar Bears
2 boxes - All the other cards/backs to my set

I have to keep my Polar Bears separate to avoid any confusion. The same rule applies with my checklists. Two separate checklists, one for Polar Bears and the other checklist for the rest of the non-Polar Bear back subjects.

I guess I'm a glutton for self inflicted punishment.

Hi Jantz

Hey good buddy, what's the latest total on your POLAR BEAR run ?


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[tedzan]

Thanks, Jeremy

For posting your long cigarette carton of COUPON Cigarettes.


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