500 HR Club

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by packs

I'd add the clean guys like Frank Thomas, Albert Pujols, Jim Thome, and Ken Griffey Jr. But I' d leave off Manny Ramirez, McGwire, Sosa, Palmeiro, Sheffield, and Ortiz.

This is what drives me crazy.....the assumption that certain guys are clean. I would love to see Piazza start his HOF speech with, "Guess what?"

[Rookiemonster]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

This is what drives me crazy.....the assumption that certain guys are clean. I would love to see Piazza start his HOF speech with, "Guess what?"

I absolutely agree with this . Just get another ball with all the other guys on it .

[packs]

I don't think it's too hard to tell who cheated. Ramirez was suspended. Palmeiro was caught red handed. McGwire and Sosa are obvious. Sheffield admitted using the same cream that Bonds did. Ortiz is the only questionable name I listed. I guess you guys are just fans of someone.

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by packs

I don't think it's too hard to tell who cheated. Ramirez was suspended. Palmeiro was caught red handed. McGwire and Sosa are obvious. Sheffield admitted using the same cream that Bonds did. Ortiz is the only questionable name I listed. I guess you guys are just fans of someone.

Ortiz has been on a list of PED users

[JMEnglish27]

Maybe use a time cutoff for it. All the guys who reached 500 HR before 1990. Something like that doesn't bring to mind the negatives.

Then start a 1990 on ball.

[Zach Wheat]

Others have suggested using pre-2000 as an arbitrary cut off year for admittance into the Non-Steroid Era 500 HR Club . Ten of the 27 members made it into the 500 HR Club after that cut off date - and most of the 10 seem to be implicated in some fashion - in using steroids.

I am still not sure about Pujols - and no I am not particularly a fan of his. I am a fan of Miguel Cabrera - and hope he makes it some day. That would be a feat playing at the cavernous Comerica Park.

Z

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by Zach Wheat

Others have suggested using pre-2000 as an arbitrary cut off year for admittance into the Non-Steroid Era 500 HR Club . Ten of the 27 members made it into the 500 HR Club after that cut off date - and most of the 10 seem to be implicated in some fashion - in using steroids.

I am still not sure about Pujols - and no I am not particularly a fan of his. I am a fan of Miguel Cabrera - and hope he makes it some day. That would be a feat playing at the cavernous Comerica Park.

Z

I agree about Miguel Cabrera and Pujols, FWIW