Love me some paper thin (T213-1) Coupons

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

id venture to say...without a doubt...that any t213-1 is more rare than the cobb w/cobb back!

Now that there are 22 confirmed Cobb / Ty Cobb cards...... your comparison "venture" regarding the 1910 COUPON cards is absolutely correct dude.

For example(s)......here are the POP numbers (PSA + SGC) for these 5 popular 1910 COUPON cards......


POP #'s = 12

.





POP #'s = 6 .................................................. .. = 3 .................................................. ............. = 5


....





POP #'s = 4

..



TED Z
.

[edjs]

I am too new to the hobby to really have an intelligent argument in the T206/not debate, but I think I have an intelligent question. Do the subjects in the Coupon type 1 exactly match any of the subjects for any specific back in the 1910 T206? I am looking at Rob's layout, and he says he needs two more to complete the set, and there are no where near 350 subjects there. So if they are 1910 T206, where are all the other subjects? I know Ted will know the answer to this, if I am asking my question right. Again, this is not meant as an statement against, just an honest question. What is the total number of Type 1s anyway? It looks like 96 from Rob's post. Thanks guys, and please don't rip into me for asking. I know this is a hot subject for many.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by edjs

I am too new to the hobby to really have an intelligent argument in the T206/not debate, but I think I have an intelligent question. Do the subjects in the Coupon type 1 exactly match any of the subjects for any specific back in the 1910 T206? I am looking at Rob's layout, and he says he needs two more to complete the set, and there are no where near 350 subjects there. So if they are 1910 T206, where are all the other subjects? I know Ted will know the answer to this, if I am asking my question right. Again, this is not meant as an statement against, just an honest question. What is the total number of Type 1s anyway? It looks like 96 from Rob's post. Thanks guys, and please don't rip into me for asking. I know this is a hot subject for many.

Burdick wrote/invented the ACC the numbering system. He knew T213s were similar to T206 as he said that in his listing where he defined them. I think it's funny how collectors twist and turn and make up all kinds of stories. But at the end of the day, Burdick classified Coupons correctly. There isn't 1, no not 1, T206 with thin stock like the type 1 coupons. Just like "A" isn't "B", T213 isn't T206. You guys can debate all you want, it still won't change anything. Burdick got it right. He knew what he was doing on this set when he named it.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Leon

Burdick wrote/invented the ACC the numbering system. He knew T213s were similar to T206 as he said that in his listing where he defined them. I think it's funny how collectors twist and turn and make up all kinds of stories. But at the end of the day, Burdick classified Coupons correctly. There isn't 1, no not 1, T206 with thin stock like the type 1 coupons. Just like "A" isn't "B", T213 isn't T206. You guys can debate all you want, it still won't change anything. Burdick got it right. He knew what he was doing on this set when he named it.

so maybe issues like t216 kotton...where different types have different stock thickness...were categorized incorrectly?

Well that doesn't really make sense does it?????

[Leon]

T216 is the same, in that instance, as T213. So yes, it does make sense.

Originally Posted by ullmandds

so maybe issues like t216 kotton...where different types have different stock thickness...were categorized incorrectly?

Well that doesn't really make sense does it?????

[DixieBaseball]

Rob,
Congrats on the 66 of 68 Coupon Type 1 set (and the 1/4 run on 2nd set)! Simply amazing. What is your time horizon for all this hard work? 20 years?? I have never known anyone to finish the type 1 set. I know of one or two folks that have made a meaningful impact on the set and I have talked with one board member about a known individual that claims to have a complete set, but it has not been confirmed by anyone else.

I went after the set for about 10 or so years, and got to around 55 cards, and then fizzled out. I kept some, auctioned some, sold a few to hobby friends. (We even did some deals, best I recall)

You may very well own 5-10% of the known Coupon Type 1 cards! LOL

[rman444]

T213-1 could be classified as a T206, and certainly fits the mold as far as size and surface finish even more so than American Beauty and Cobb Back. If not for the subsequent issue of T213-2 and -3, a T213-1 coupon back would more than likely have been only known as just another super rare T206 back.

Burdick cataloged his tens of thousands of cards some 80 years ago, without the help of internet, national card conventions and the far reaching arms of today's media. To think that Burdick, if he were alive today, would have the arrogance to think that he could not have made any mistakes, or that he would not have wanted or accepted updates/corrections to his ACC based on 8 decades of new finds, research and debate, is hard for me to believe.