eBay negative feedback

[Mdmtx]

To get back to my original post, I just left negative feedback. I requested the seller, tripleplayvintagestore, to refund my money plus adequate return postage. He told me that I needed to send the card first. I told him I don't trust him, nor do I want to give an interest free loan. So I just left a negative. First time I've done that and I guess I will be keeping a card with writing on the back. Oh well, you live and learn. I learned to avoid tripleplayvintage

Mark Medlin

[Sean1125]

Originally Posted by Mdmtx

To get back to my original post, I just left negative feedback. I requested the seller, tripleplayvintage, to refund my money plus adequate return postage. He told me that I needed to send the card first. I told him I don't trust him, nor do I want to give an interest free loan. So I just left a negative. First time I've done that and I guess I will be keeping a card with writing on the back. Oh well, you live and learn. I learned to avoid tripleplayvintage

Mark Medlin

No seller is in the habit of giving refunds before a buyer ships items.

[Buythatcard]

Originally Posted by Mdmtx

To get back to my original post, I just left negative feedback. I requested the seller, tripleplayvintage, to refund my money plus adequate return postage. He told me that I needed to send the card first. I told him I don't trust him, nor do I want to give an interest free loan. So I just left a negative. First time I've done that and I guess I will be keeping a card with writing on the back. Oh well, you live and learn. I learned to avoid tripleplayvintage

Mark Medlin

Definitely not the way to do it! You should return the card first and then the Seller will refund your money. If he doesn't then eBay will step in. I see no reason why you should have left them a negative. Seller agreed to refund your money upon receipt of the card. No business will give you a refund until you return the item.

[Mdmtx]

I am not interested in loaning this guy money to perpetuate his practice. I chose to keep the card and be out the money. He chose to be deceptive in his ad. I guess that makes me petty. I'm ok with that. But it also marks a deceptive person as deceptive. I'm ok with that too

[Mdmtx]

I've been thinking about this more and am actually a little ticked off. Let's say a company made a habit of selling things on eBay that presented better in photos than they are. Let's say a company placed 500 of these items on eBay selling for an average of 100 bucks each. Had them all end at about the same time. Then collected 50,000.00 in funds from the deceptive sales. Now it takes 3 or 4 days to receive the merchandise. Then 2 or 3 days of emails about the deceptive sale. Then 3 or 4 more days to ship back then a day or 2 to process a refund. Looks to me like a great way to have a 50 k interest free loan for 10 to 15 days. Not to mention the possibility that some just keep the merchandise and the sale becomes final. You guys may not like my negative feedback, but I'm not going to enable that type business model/practice. To think the seller is the only one trustworthy to hold the merchandise and the funds at the same time is ludicrous. In the return process the roles are reversed and the buyer is now the seller. If the original seller isn't willing to put himself in the buyers shoes, maybe he should not be a seller.

[Sean1125]

What is your eBay username so I can make sure to block you, please?

[Mdmtx]

Mkmtx block away

[Mdmtx]

Glad to see you support shady dealing Sean

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Mdmtx

I've been thinking about this more and am actually a little ticked off. Let's say a company made a habit of selling things on eBay that presented better in photos than they are. Let's say a company placed 500 of these items on eBay selling for an average of 100 bucks each. Had them all end at about the same time. Then collected 50,000.00 in funds from the deceptive sales. Now it takes 3 or 4 days to receive the merchandise. Then 2 or 3 days of emails about the deceptive sale. Then 3 or 4 more days to ship back then a day or 2 to process a refund. Looks to me like a great way to have a 50 k interest free loan for 10 to 15 days. Not to mention the possibility that some just keep the merchandise and the sale becomes final. You guys may not like my negative feedback, but I'm not going to enable that type business model/practice. To think the seller is the only one trustworthy to hold the merchandise and the funds at the same time is ludicrous. In the return process the roles are reversed and the buyer is now the seller. If the original seller isn't willing to put himself in the buyers shoes, maybe he should not be a seller.

I ended up keeptng a card from ebay id battlefield where there are multiple theads about because did not want to hassle on a 20 dollar card etc.. (actually 5 dollar card if scan/description accurate) but wha you said seems like his business model

[Mdmtx]

I own a parkhurst nagurski from battlefield that I kept about a year ago. Was exactly the type of situation I was referring to. Feedback doesn't tell the whole story. It's only the tip.

[Mdmtx]

I left negative feedback and I will not do any business with that person again. Enabled is sweeping under the rug. I chose to take the 40 dollar hit and broadcast the sales tactics. If I go the refund route I would be hushed. So I feel I did not enable this seller, instead I feel I took a stand at my expense.

[thecatspajamas]

Originally Posted by Mdmtx

Not to mention the possibility that some just keep the merchandise and the sale becomes final.

You mean like you just decided to do? By somehow rationalizing that you are in an either/or scenario of either leaving negative feedback or getting your money back, you are being an enabler in your imagined scenario.

If you are not satisfied that the item you received is as advertised, go through official channels to file for a refund. EBay will have you return the card and will ensure you get your money back when the tracking on the return shipment shows the package was delivered back to the seller. After that, you can still leave whatever feedback you feel is appropriate.

Getting upset because the buyer asked you to return the card for a refund is unproductive, and I fail to see how letting the buyer KEEP the money for what you consider a fraudulent transaction is somehow better than what you call LOANING him the money until eBay refunds it to you.

Returning what you bought for a refund is standard operating procedure in any industry that deals with hard goods, and in many cases, is the only meaningful way to reinforce your displeasure with the goods or transaction. No matter how displeased you are though, you still have to go through the proper channels to carry out the return/refund.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by Mdmtx

I've been thinking about this more and am actually a little ticked off. Let's say a company made a habit of selling things on eBay that presented better in photos than they are. Let's say a company placed 500 of these items on eBay selling for an average of 100 bucks each. Had them all end at about the same time. Then collected 50,000.00 in funds from the deceptive sales. Now it takes 3 or 4 days to receive the merchandise. Then 2 or 3 days of emails about the deceptive sale. Then 3 or 4 more days to ship back then a day or 2 to process a refund. Looks to me like a great way to have a 50 k interest free loan for 10 to 15 days. Not to mention the possibility that some just keep the merchandise and the sale becomes final. You guys may not like my negative feedback, but I'm not going to enable that type business model/practice. To think the seller is the only one trustworthy to hold the merchandise and the funds at the same time is ludicrous. In the return process the roles are reversed and the buyer is now the seller. If the original seller isn't willing to put himself in the buyers shoes, maybe he should not be a seller.

I disagree. The time and shipping costs would not make this profitable. I think it's pretty ridiculous that you expect a refund without returning the card. I have agreed with everything you have said up until this point. But you are making a bad situation worse.

I agree with Sean as a seller I would block you.

[Mdmtx]

Block away.

[Mdmtx]

And to be clear I would return the card. I just expect the refund prior to my sending. I have read posts about people failing to refund, delaying refunds etc.. I'm not interested in relinquishing what little leverage I do have until he processes the refund. I will contact eBay and perform the return however they outline it.

And in response to pokerplayer, if you see no value in interest free loans please forward me as much cash as you can spare. The scenario I pointed out could be construed as a small ponzu scheme. If you had enough items to sell you could in fact role that into a large sum of money by way of interest free loan and use that money for a quick flip and then repay your accounts. Not saying this was done, but could be under the current system.