scam alert: fake psa cards from ebay seller "cardregistry"

[DeanH3]

Thanks for letting us know about this this Bob. Man, these fake holders send a chill down my spine. I only know Bob from his postings here and on the CU boards, but I'm confident that he's seen enough PSA holders that if this one could have passed the eye test to him initially, these con artists are mighty sophisticated.

[irv]

Originally Posted by begsu1013

and i think the marichal is real. it has his carpet background, so that just may be psa! ; )

here is a list of items sold w/ highest prices first.

remember, this guy didn't have them "in hand"....

you will see that the first couple all have the "black background" vs his carpet background

my mantle is removed from the list, i know there was an 86 rice 10 and jeter sp 10 that seem to have disappeared from the sold list

but these are some biggies and there are probably a few more that were done direct....

http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?item=...gistry&_sop=16

Wow, lots of current bids on those cards too!

[begsu1013]

got a call from denver police detective today requesting info on this.
super nice guy and an actual coin collector. he has dealt w/ some fraudulent psa holders previously,
so if anyone has any info on these guys or been the victim of a fake holder,
they are asked to please contact him.
as a collector himself,
he seems to hold sincere interest in this case!

email below:



Bob

The suspect’s name is Mayo McNeil, and another person claiming to be his grandson uses Matt McNeil.
Anything from them would be highly suspect.




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Denver Police Department | City and County of Denver
720.913.6062 Phone | 720.913.7027 Fax
peter.palombi@denvergov.org

[Peter_Spaeth]

To clarify, these are the guys whose cards were listed by cardregistry?

[begsu1013]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

To clarify, these are the guys whose cards were listed by cardregistry?

no.

these are the guy/guys that are possibly obtaining the fakes from mexico.
and have unloaded a few in the co area. apparently he is a 75 year old man and has had previous run ins w/ the detective.

for complete transparency, the guys at cardregistry were, indeed, on the hook for the $100K+ that was "sold" and was taken from their bank acct. but i think the total was $156Kish.

still go back and forth about feeling bad for them considering that amount.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by begsu1013

no.

these are the guy/guys that are possibly obtaining the fakes from mexico.
and have unloaded a few in the co area. apparently he is a 75 year old man and has had previous run ins w/ the detective.

for complete transparency, the guys at cardregistry were, indeed, on the hook for the $100K+ that was "sold" and was taken from their bank acct. but i think the total was $156Kish.

still go back and forth about feeling bad for them considering that amount.

I am still confused, so what's their connection to cardregistry?

[begsu1013]

might be the consignor, i guess?

apparently cr had to file a IC3 complaint.

assuming it listed all the parties involved....

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by begsu1013

might be the consignor, i guess?

apparently cr had to file a IC3 complaint.

assuming it listed all the parties involved....

Right, that's what I asked and you said no.

[Leon]

Just got off the phone with this detective hence the thread just started. Yes, it is a fake or altered holder issue, I believe...

Originally Posted by begsu1013

got a call from denver police detective today requesting info on this.
super nice guy and an actual coin collector. he has dealt w/ some fraudulent psa holders previously,
so if anyone has any info on these guys or been the victim of a fake holder,
they are asked to please contact him.
as a collector himself,
he seems to hold sincere interest in this case!

email below:



Bob

The suspect’s name is Mayo McNeil, and another person claiming to be his grandson uses Matt McNeil.
Anything from them would be highly suspect.




http://www.denvergov.org/Portals/584.../EmailIcon.jpg

Peter J. Palombi, 85013| Detective
Denver Police Department | City and County of Denver
720.913.6062 Phone | 720.913.7027 Fax
peter.palombi@denvergov.org