Goodwin preview with bids already placed?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Bidders won't know until the end of the auction, whether their high bid would have won, or if someone else's max has taken their "spot" due to the early opening.

If you bid now and become high bidder (as I too just did on a number of lots), then there was no max.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

If you bid now and become high bidder (as I too just did on a number of lots), then there was no max.

Then of course in that case, there would not be any difference. To make the blanket statement that it will have NO DIFFERENCE in the outcome, is pretty short sighted.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Then of course in that case, there would not be any difference. To make the blanket statement that it will have NO DIFFERENCE in the outcome, is pretty short sighted.

Just my opinion but I think you are (almost ) exactly 100% wrong.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Leon

Just my opinion but I think you are (almost ) exactly 100% wrong.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and they are a board advertiser, but don't insult my intelligence.

I put in my max bid 100% of the time the very minute the auction opens. If someone had the advantage of early bidding, which was not announced, and took my slot, how is that not an unfair advantage?

[D.P.Johnson]

How 'bout this novel idea:

If you don't like the way an auction is handling their business (i.e. shilling, opening and/or closing auctions early, too high of shipping/handling charges, too high buyer's premium, etc.), don't bid with them.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by D.P.Johnson

How 'bout this novel idea:

If you don't like the way an auction is handling their business (i.e. shilling, opening and/or closing auctions early, too high of shipping/handling charges, too high buyer's premium, etc., don't bid with them.

you forget that we discussed fixing the mistake before it was a mistake....there werent complaints being made afterward....there was an easy fix means.

if a listing is inaccurate for example...you can just not bid on it..or you can try to help the AH correct it if there is time... not sure its a matter of just not bidding when you can correct it..

...i know its a novel idea to try to correct a mistake before a mistake happens..

[D.P.Johnson]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

you forget that we discussed fixing the mistake before it was a mistake....there werent complaints being made afterward....there was an easy fix means.

if a listing is inaccurate for example...you can just not bid on it..or you can try to help the AH correct it if there is time... not sure its a matter of just not bidding when you can correct it..

...i know its a novel idea to try to correct a mistake before a mistake happens..

I didn't forget anything. That's why I put "etc" at the end of my examples.

Thus, once again, if you don't like the way an auction house is handling their business (i.e. not fixing a mistake before it was a mistake, not fixing a mistake when it's been brought to their attention, not accepting paypal, not shipping quickly enough, not packaging properly, not paying consigners quickly enough, etc.), don't do business with the auction house.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and they are a board advertiser, but don't insult my intelligence.

I put in my max bid 100% of the time the very minute the auction opens. If someone had the advantage of early bidding, which was not announced, and took my slot, how is that not an unfair advantage?

On how many lots in this auction were you outbid when you placed your maxxes this morning?

[ksabet]

Holy Overreaction Batman!!!

I can't believe this thread is up to 50+ posts of debate, over an honest error.

[Vintageclout]

Originally Posted by ksabet

Holy Overreaction Batman!!!

I can't believe this thread is up to 50+ posts of debate, over an honest error.

+ infinity!

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

On how many lots in this auction were you outbid when you placed your maxxes this morning?

Just two..but thats just me....i do win many auctions based on bids on my initial bids...

I do think that even if its proven that someone did lose out on an item because the auction started early you will still say that in the end its not a big deal.....if thats the case, you really do not need to keep trying to prove that there was no harm done based on no one losing out on a bid if in the end you dont care either way...

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Just two..but thats just me....i do win many auctions based on bids on my initial bids...

I do think that even if its proven that someone did lose out on an item because the auction started early you will still say that in the end its not a big deal.....if thats the case, you really do not need to keep trying to prove that there was no harm done based on no one losing out on a bid if in the end you dont care either way...

Maybe Ted outbid you. And since he is there the minute the auction opens, he says, he would have anyhow.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Then of course in that case, there would not be any difference. To make the blanket statement that it will have NO DIFFERENCE in the outcome, is pretty short sighted.

Is it theoretically possible someone got in early and placed a max bid that will hold up? I suppose so, but it seems relatively unlikely. And who's to say that the same early bidder wouldn't have been first in line anyhow at the regular opening, if your supposition is that a second guy who wanted to place the same max bid was unfairly pre-empted?

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Is it theoretically possible someone got in early and placed a max bid that will hold up? I suppose so, but it seems relatively unlikely. And who's to say that the same early bidder wouldn't have been first in line anyhow at the regular opening, if your supposition is that a second guy who wanted to place the same max bid was unfairly pre-empted?

i placed a few max bids and someone took the bidding slot who tok the slot before the auction opened most likely...if the persons max bid holds up and noone beats it then you see the problem.....i get it life is unfair..i am just stating that you cant say zero consequences when open an auction early...i can of course pay more than i wanted to to attempt to win the card and to see if its the max bid but why pay more than i should have had too potentially...

all i know if none of this is of any issue if auction just started when it was supposed to or just reset yesterday when advised...

i did get some other bids in that are now the high bids as well so no problems there...

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Then of course in that case, there would not be any difference. To make the blanket statement that it will have NO DIFFERENCE in the outcome, is pretty short sighted.

i agree.....theres a rush sometimes to get that highest market value bidding slot......people wait up at night as well when auctions about to end to get that last bid in...however auction closing early can be combated by placing a max bid or on ebay a snipe bid type of thing...there is nothing that can be done in the event a auction starts early..

[jcc6252]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

If you bid now and become high bidder (as I too just did on a number of lots), then there was no max.

+1