Goodwin preview with bids already placed?

[glchen]

I'm one of the bidders who was already able to place a couple bids in the Goodwin auction. Basically, I logged into the site to check it out, and noticed that you could place bids even though it was supposed to be only in Preview mode, so I put my usual placeholder bids in. Not sure why they would reset the bids to 0. That would just cause confusion to those who already placed bids to suddenly get their bids retracted by the auction house.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by glchen

I'm one of the bidders who was already able to place a couple bids in the Goodwin auction. Basically, I logged into the site to check it out, and noticed that you could place bids even though it was supposed to be only in Preview mode, so I put my usual placeholder bids in. Not sure why they would reset the bids to 0. That would just cause confusion to those who already placed bids to suddenly get their bids retracted by the auction house.

well they would reset it so the auction starts to when they said the auction starts...

[bobfreedman]

This was a mistake on my part and I apologize to all. Bill had asked me to put the auction in preview and I accidentally opened it for auction for about an hour. All bids will stay in place and it will open up again either tomorrow or Tuesday. Please accept my apologies once again

Bob Freedman
CEO, Simple Auction Site

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by bobfreedman

This was a mistake on my part and I apologize to all. Bill had asked me to put the auction in preview and I accidentally opened it for auction for about an hour. All bids will stay in place and it will open up again either tomorrow or Tuesday. Please accept my apologies once again

Bob Freedman
CEO, Simple Auction Site

Extremely unprofessional to start an auction before the stated auction time...auction houses go to great lengths to explain when an auction ends..and makes warnings that an auction may end sooner than a certain time..

however i guess auctions can start whenever they want...

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Extremely unprofessional to start an auction before the stated auction time...auction houses go to great lengths to explain when an auction ends..and makes warnings that an auction may end sooner than a certain time..

however i guess auctions can start whenever they want...

What difference does it make? In the end the high bid is going to win and everyone will have plenty of time to bid. Seems like Bob made a mistake and quickly corrected it and that should be that.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

What difference does it make? In the end the high bid is going to win and everyone will have plenty of time to bid. Seems like Bob made a mistake and quickly corrected it and that should be that.

If someone makes a high bid on the same bidding slot as someone that was going to bid when the auction opens it makes a difference.......the person that is following the rules now may not be able to win the item for what would of been the potential winning price and loses that opportunity....an 'correcting' it doest mean stopping bidding..it means resetting the bids....you cant argue otherwise

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

If someone makes a high bid on the same bidding slot as someone that was going to bid when the auction opens it makes a difference.......the person that is following the rules now may not be able to win the item for what would of been the potential winning price and loses that opportunity...you cant argue otherwise

I doubt many people place a ceiling bid at the opening bell. I doubt even more there are lots where two people were going to do so at the same level and one has now been denied.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I doubt many people place a ceiling bid at the opening bell. I doubt even more there are lots where two people were going to do so at the same level and one has now been denied.

wont know until bidding actually starts tomorrow...but we do know the fairest thing to do is start the auction when it was supposed to start....why are you commenting about ifs and making excuses..yes its possible no harm no foul...but we dont know for sure....what we do know is a mistake was made and it can easily be corrected..whats the harm in resetting the bids.....instead of most likely no harm no foul in keeping it how it is..it would be ZERO Harm Zero foul if its reset....or am i wrong

[gnaz01]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

What difference does it make? In the end the high bid is going to win and everyone will have plenty of time to bid. Seems like Bob made a mistake and quickly corrected it and that should be that.

Totally agree with Peter here, in the end, the highest bid will win.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by gnaz01

Totally agree with Peter here, in the end, the highest bid will win.

Ive won a bunch of auctions when my high bid got tied by someone elses and that person refused to bid the next bidding slot (which could be $1000+)..im sure those guys that lost on a tied bid wished they could of bid a day before the auction started..

easy to say 'highest bid will win' of course if you are willing to overpay you can always win but why bid more than you have too?

[Vintageclout]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

What difference does it make? In the end the high bid is going to win and everyone will have plenty of time to bid. Seems like Bob made a mistake and quickly corrected it and that should be that.

+1

[bobfreedman]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Extremely unprofessional to start an auction before the stated auction time...auction houses go to great lengths to explain when an auction ends..and makes warnings that an auction may end sooner than a certain time..

however i guess auctions can start whenever they want...

A mistake was made, I am sure you have made them in your work as well. No need to make any more of it than that.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by bobfreedman

A mistake was made, I am sure you have made them in your work as well. No need to make any more of it than that.

Theres a difference....i have made mistakes at work that i couldnt change ...you have the ability to start all the bids at zero and the auction acually begins at the stated time that you have set.....it was really a bad comparison to say that that I make mistakes at work because you still have the ability to correct the mistake.....not sure how anyone is harmed but just starting the auction just as you stated with all bids starting at zero.

......i wish i had the ability to correct past mistakes.....it actually wouldnt even be a mistake if you just corrected it now..it really no bid deal to it i would think but maybe the software doesnt let you ..

There are usually science fiction movies about going back into the past to correct mistakes.....no time machine needed ... you can do what you want..but again not fair to say 'you made (mistakes) in your work as well. Your mistake does not even begin yet..

[egbeachley]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Extremely unprofessional to start an auction before the stated auction time...auction houses go to great lengths to explain when an auction ends..and makes warnings that an auction may end sooner than a certain time..

I'm OUTRAGED!

How can they do that?!?

Wait, what? Someone on the internet said something mean about someone? I'm OUTRAGED! How can they say that?

[sbfinley]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Extremely unprofessional to start an auction before the stated auction time...auction houses go to great lengths to explain when an auction ends..and makes warnings that an auction may end sooner than a certain time..

however i guess auctions can start whenever they want...

If you guys want to pander back and forth about if it helps to bid early at an auction have at it. My belief based on previous experience is that the highest bid wins, but I've been incorrect before. The quoted statement above, however, is asinine in the most absolute form, and that's probably the most correct statement I've ever provided on this board. Bob is a gigantic asset to the hobby and his company allows many great people to make a living doing what they love. No Bob, no Sterling. No Bob, no Love of the Game. I could go on and on. Secondly, mistakes happen - billions of then everyday - the vast majority of them innocent and meaningless much like this one. He quickly admitted fault publicly and fixed the issue. Finally, after the above quoted nonsense you then continued to slam him for not removing the early bids. Spoiler alert: That isn't Bob's call. Practice your reading comprehension skills by reading the entirety of his first apology from start to finish and eventually you might figure out why.

I decided a short time ago I would quit trolling your sometimes incoherent babble, but I'm pulling down the white flag on this one. Here is a free one, think before you speak, especially if you are going to bash someone important to the hobby's growth whom you know nothing about. You have a passion for the hobby, which is great, but you ramble on incessantly in a form that appears to be speaking just the sake for speaking. That I could handle of it weren't for the numerous digs and pokes sprinkled in towards members who deserve better. I'm sure we'll cross paths again, but until then happy collecting.

Steven Finley

[begsu1013]

Originally Posted by sbfinley

If you guys want to pander back and forth about if it helps to bid early at an auction have at it. My belief based on previous experience is that the highest bid wins, but I've been incorrect before. The quoted statement above, however, is asinine in the most absolute form, and that's probably the most correct statement I've ever provided on this board. Bob is a gigantic asset to the hobby and his company allows many great people to make a living doing what they love. No Bob, no Sterling. No Bob, no Love of the Game. I could go on and on. Secondly, mistakes happen - billions of then everyday - the vast majority of them innocent and meaningless much like this one. He quickly admitted fault publicly and fixed the issue. Finally, after the above quoted nonsense you then continued to slam him for not removing the early bids. Spoiler alert: That isn't Bob's call. Practice your reading comprehension skills by reading the entirety of his first apology from start to finish and eventually you might figure out why.

I decided a short time ago I would quit trolling your sometimes incoherent babble, but I'm pulling down the white flag on this one. Here is a free one, think before you speak, especially if you are going to bash someone important to the hobby's growth whom you know nothing about. You have a passion for the hobby, which is great, but you ramble on incessantly in a form that appears to be speaking just the sake for speaking. That I could handle of it weren't for the numerous digs and pokes sprinkled in towards members who deserve better. I'm sure we'll cross paths again, but until then happy collecting.

Steven Finley

[iowadoc77]

Originally Posted by bobfreedman

This was a mistake on my part and I apologize to all. Bill had asked me to put the auction in preview and I accidentally opened it for auction for about an hour. All bids will stay in place and it will open up again either tomorrow or Tuesday. Please accept my apologies once again

Bob Freedman
CEO, Simple Auction Site

Bob,
Thank you. I got my placeholder bid in at least and I can understand a mistake. The measure of a man is not in if he makes a mistake, but how he reacts to it. So thank you and this should have no bearing on the final results.
Jake,
You need to cut a little slack. Stuff happens. At least he didn't hide behind a bunch of excuses.