Looking for a 2nd example of the T206 Cobb (bat off shoulder) / Black LENOX card

tedzan · #1 02-21-2016, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie

Part of my opinion was based upon the thought that a tpg could easily see a re-backed or re-fronted card in hand with a loop, but y'all have stated that they have already had many slip past them.

Take care, Rob.

Hi Rob

It's been approx. a dozen years since these re-fronted T206's surfaced into circulation.....so, many have forgotten about them. One of the
most memorable fakes was the T206 Matty (portrait) with a Red HINDU back. It was a "beauty" and it was graded by SGC.

Here's another re-fronted "beauty"....the Green Cobb with an impossible CYCLE 350 back. This fake was sold in Auction for $3000.

I could go on (and on) with a number of these fakes....but, I will leave you with how this RE-FRONTING process is usually done......

A friend of mine, who is a professional paper restorer, described to me the process of creating such "fakes" that are virtually undetectable
strictly from their physical appearance. Simply, the front of the card is very carefully removed from its back. And, the desired front image
from another card is appliqued onto that blank front of that card. Then basic paper restoring measures are used to restore the edges.

TED Z
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Peter_Spaeth · #2 02-21-2016, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tedzan

Hi Rob

It's been approx. a dozen years since these re-fronted T206's surfaced into circulation.....so, many have forgotten about them. One of the
most memorable fakes was the T206 Matty (portrait) with a Red HINDU back. It was a "beauty" and it was graded by SGC.

Here's another re-fronted "beauty"....the Green Cobb with an impossible CYCLE 350 back. This fake was sold in Auction for $3000.

I could go on (and on) with a number of these fakes....but, I will leave you with how this RE-FRONTING process is usually done......

A friend of mine, who is a professional paper restorer, described to me the process of creating such "fakes" that are virtually undetectable
strictly from their physical appearance. Simply, the front of the card is very carefully removed from its back. And, the desired front image
from another card is appliqued onto that blank front of that card. Then basic paper restoring measures are used to restore the edges.

TED Z
.

It seems that in this hobby, anyplace there is demand, there is a card doctor (or purveyor of fake autographs/memorabilia) to fill it. Sad.

tedzan · #3 02-22-2016, 01:34 PM

Peter

In the last Century (1970's - 1999), the "card doctors" were Lo-Tech using paper cutters....but then most of these little cardboard gems were valued only in 2 or 3-digit$.

In the 21st Century, with 4, 5, or 6-digit$ values, the card doctors have become Hi-Tech....as is evident in the examples of the re-fronted T206's.

Now, what we T206 dudes have to fear is that these con-artists have become knowledgeable on the correct front/back permutations !

TED Z
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Peter_Spaeth · #4 02-22-2016, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by tedzan

Peter

In the last Century (1970's - 1999), the "card doctors" were Lo-Tech using paper cutters....but then most of these little cardboard gems were valued only in 2 or 3-digit$.

In the 21st Century, with 4, 5, or 6-digit$ values, the card doctors have become Hi-Tech....as is evident in the examples of the re-fronted T206's.

Now, what we T206 dudes have to fear is that these con-artists have become knowledgeable on the correct front/back permutations !

TED Z
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Ted yeah, except low tech was good enough to get the Wagner into an 8 holder in 1991.

tedzan · #5 02-22-2016, 01:46 PM

Peter

As I was typing my first sentence in that post, that exact thought entered my mind. But, I told myself not to go there

But, you did......c'est la vie.

TED Z
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Peter_Spaeth · #6 02-22-2016, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tedzan

Peter

As I was typing my first sentence in that post, that exact thought entered my mind. But, I told myself not to go there

But, you did......c'est la vie.

TED Z
.

Yeah and I was typing about the Wagner, I was thinking of the Robin Williams line (translated from "jive" to English

) "these and many many more."

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