Wilt da Stilt gamer/Tiernan jersey info

[TB12GOAT]

Here is a Kareem with no notch...

[mickeymao34]

Originally Posted by TB12GOAT

Here is a Kareem with no notch...

My point being is that there is not a shred of photographic evidence whatsoever of a player,any player from A-Z, wearing a shirt with a number font without notch during Tiernan era. Over time the replicas have gotten better as they improved their creations in regards to spacing, especially after the advent of internet. There has also been some instances where a legit common gamer has been altered to a star player (Cazzie Russell to Magic comes to mind). The ones with inaccurate spacing and lack of notched were all made in early 90s. Also the material of the shirts in question compared to an actual game worn jersey (one that has been proven worn thru photomatch) actually feels different. One must ask how come its only the big stars with the lack of notch in number fonts that appear frequently for sale? As stated before show me 1 CLEAR pic from Tiernan era of any player w/o a notch and I'll admit my ignorance. Displaying a example without a notch from an AH doesn't refute my points but only reinforces it IMO. Showing me a photograph of actual player wearing it in game play is a totally different story. Lastly, in this example why is it that the Tiernan tag is worn out and beat to hell while the rest of the piece looks virtually pristine? Sadly the game worn collecting hobby is 90% deception (10% buried deep for years in collections) especially in big named star players from vintage eras. In todays environment the only way to go in purchasing a legit big name star vintage shirt is with a solid photomatch. No Letter of Opinion can make a vintage jersey actually real, maybe "real" in the minds of the unknowing.

[Bpm0014]

Great read!!

[WindyCityGameUsed]

Is this thread going to be ignored now since going got tough?

It's been over 24 hours since a high resolution picture of the Magic jersey in question was requested to be posted in this thread to add much needed validation to Troy's posted position given the other contradictory posted pictures.

On a side note I personally never understood the whole A10 grade system cause to me personally if I'm going to give an item a 10 out of 10 grade then I better be able to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt what I'm saying with some serious photographic evidence otherwise no way it can grade out a 10.

[mickeymao34]

Ron, Here is the pic you requested (UNCROPPED) that Mears used as example and it is the same exact shirt worn in pic with Bird in NBA Finals. All the mesh holes match up perfectly like a fingerprint at a crime scene. These are much higher resolution than the example pic that was provided to prove my theory (fact) of notched Tiernans wrong. Note the prominent notches and spacing as stated in post 1 on BOTH players (Magic and Big Game). This jersey was worn in many, many ,many games and in Getty pics of that year. I have more higher resolution pics of this jersey in different games if you wish to see. I'm not pushing agendas here (as this is a free country and entitled to spend your cash as you see fit) this is all purely from a collector stance and not from an entity that stands to make dineros.

[mickeymao34]

Originally Posted by WindyCityGameUsed

Is this thread going to be ignored now since going got tough?

It's been over 24 hours since a high resolution picture of the Magic jersey in question was requested to be posted in this thread to add much needed validation to Troy's posted position given the other contradictory posted pictures.

On a side note I personally never understood the whole A10 grade system cause to me personally if I'm going to give an item a 10 out of 10 grade then I better be able to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt what I'm saying with some serious photographic evidence otherwise no way it can grade out a 10.

Ron, that is a great point. I can further this discussion by adding the question of how many of these A10's are evaluated and produced at the request of a AH vs collector request?

[WindyCityGameUsed]

48 Hours and counting now of silence since the very simple request of a high resolution picture of the A10 Magic being sold be added to this thread.

Has Troy left the building now cause all I hear are crickets??

[Bpm0014]

Post 23. The two Magic shirts at the very bottom. Notice the positioning of the "a" in Lakers in relation to the capital "L". They are vastly different.

[WindyCityGameUsed]

Originally Posted by mickeymao34

Ron, that is a great point. I can further this discussion by adding the question of how many of these A10's are evaluated and produced at the request of a AH vs collector request?

WOW

IMO I don't know if I can give an honest speculative answer to your question even on an open forum as I believe the TRUE answer to that might send shock waves thru the GU community.

IMO that is a serious spot on question with a dangerous answer

[mickeymao34]

Forgot I had this one too, found buried in closet.