Outrageous prices on ebay

[conor912]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

I wonder if dean's or 707s prices for high end cards encourage buyers to make offers offline or through their personal websites. Perhaps this is where sales take place at reasonable prices. This is just a theory as I have never purchased from either.

You obviously have not been to their personal websites

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by conor912

You obviously have not been to their personal websites

I actually went to Dean's website when I was working on the 52 Topps set. Needless to say I did not end up making a purchase, or even making an offer. Seems like a pretty big operation though so obviously people are buying, even if they're not Net54 members.

I made 707 a couple of offers on Ebay but we weren't able to reach an agreement.

I honestly don't know how they both do so well. I must be missing something.

[kmac32]

First off, you do not buy from Deans Cards off of ebay. He has a website and the cards are discounted by a percentage depending on how much money you spend. The percentage can range from 5 to 20% and shipping is free if you get over a certain dollar amount. As to the others, the price is always negotiable. There are ways around the asking prices and nobody is forced to buy.

Kmac

[1952boyntoncollector]

I make fun of BIN and dealer prices as much as the next guy but think about it..

Dealers are usually going to ask prices for more than cards sell on ebay with PWCC..otherwise they would just consign the cards themselves..

they are offering a convenience...you dont have to wait around for an auction and also risk being outbid the last second or at 3 am...people will pay decent $ above 'market' for either of those conveniences..

when you think about the hours of time many spend scouring ebay and all those auctions sites day by day by day...maybe yeah you just saved $300 on a card...and you spent about 100 hours to do it....some people value time over money...who knows..

[begsu1013]

i recently made a purchase from 707 and have purchased from him previously, albeit very rarely for the reasons mentioned above.

the card i purchased was indeed very nicely centered and should have carried the small premium, HOWEVER....

he said he did not want to use paypal gift and that paypal was looking into these "gifts" and that it was frowned up and he just didn't want anything to do w/ it. instead he wanted me to mail him a check or go to the post office and mail him a money order!?!?.

the deal almost fell apart over $10 because he didn't want pp gift, yet didn't want the fees to come out of his end either.

it was very, very odd.

has anyone heard anything about paypal frowning about using the "gift" for making purchases vs just sending friends and family money?

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by begsu1013

has anyone heard anything about paypal frowning about using the "gift" for making purchases vs just sending friends and family money?

I had a seller tell me this once. Although he said it was fine to just use goods and he covered the fee. It certainly makes sense. Especially if your paypal account is set up with a business name.

Risking a $300 sale and losing a customer over a $10 paypal fee doesn't make as much sense to me.

[PM770]

Back in the fall of 2014, I purchased a 100 card lot of 1960 Topps in VGEX for $60-65 from Dean's. Mostly commons with some minor stars. I thought that was a reasonably good deal.

I've bought mid to lower grade raw singles from time to time from 707 and believe it or not they were lowest price or close to it. At that end of the grading spectrum, 707 has some reasonably priced cards.

Both were good experiences so I would buy from them again. Obviously, If the prices are reasonable.

[begsu1013]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

I had a seller tell me this once. Although he said it was fine to just use goods and he covered the fee. It certainly makes sense. Especially if your paypal account is set up with a business name.

Risking a $300 sale and losing a customer over a $10 paypal fee doesn't make as much sense to me.

anyone else?

[ALR-bishop]

I buy occasionally from Dean's for the reasons mentioned by Cliff. Good front and back scans if you are looking for off beat cards.

I buy from Levi because I like his hat. He does take checks and if you are a customer he sends cards, even high dollar items, for approval before payment . And he is honest.

Yep is high and does not seem very flexible, but he does have some unique stuff.

Some people have cards that they do not want to sell unless they get their price. This can be annoying to people who want to buy those cards at prices they would prefer to pay.

Do not know about Yep, but Dean and Levi seem to be doing ok

[Snapolit1]

Some people put their house on the market not because they are dying to move but because they will move if a dream offer comes in. Sure it's no different with many eBay sellers.

[begsu1013]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

I buy from Levi because I like his hat. He does take checks and if you are a customer he sends cards, even high dollar items, for approval before payment . And he is honest.

+1

(especially on the hat and honesty factor)

[obcbobd]

I've made offers to 707 on some lower end cards, he usually rejects my offer and counters a few dollars off his initial asking price. Never made a deal. I see him at shows, great cards: Ruths, Gehrigs, Cobbs etc. All seem to be well over priced. I assume people buy from him for convenience, paying extra for a card because they don't have the time to search. Not sure how he's able to make a profit. I have heard the owner of 707, Levi I beleive is his name, is a grreat guy and very knowledgeable.

[TheNightmanCometh]

Latest round of Venezuelans posted by our faves, Dean's cards and Yepbg. As per usual, disgustingly overpriced.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw...zuela&_sacat=0

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw...uelan&_sacat=0

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by TheNightmanCometh

Latest round of Venezuelans posted by our faves, Dean's cards and Yepbg. As per usual, disgustingly overpriced.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw...zuela&_sacat=0

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw...uelan&_sacat=0

Venezuelans you never know on price because there are so few....i wouldnt call them out on those card....there is huge price disparity on same card sales....a PSA 1 Mantle that he has listed in 1964 for $1200 could sell for $500 but could also sell for $1000 ...who knows....when the POP is so small dealers are looking for that niche buyer..

anyway most of their cards yes very overpriced...but venezuelans, especially HOF's like Mantle you can see the same listed card with two dealers with a 400% difference in price which doesnt really occur in the non-venezuelan market...

[TheNightmanCometh]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Venezuelans you never know on price because there are so few....i wouldnt call them out on those card....there is huge price disparity on same card sales....a PSA 1 Mantle that he has listed in 1964 for $1200 could sell for $500 but could also sell for $1000 ...who knows....when the POP is so small dealers are looking for that niche buyer..

anyway most of their cards yes very overpriced...but venezuelans, especially HOF's like Mantle you can see the same listed card with two dealers with a 400% difference in price which doesnt really occur in the non-venezuelan market...

I don't find it coincidental that when it comes to the two dealers with a 400% difference in the price, Dean and yep are consistently the higher priced dealer of the two.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by TheNightmanCometh

I don't find it coincidental that when it comes to the two dealers with a 400% difference in the price, Dean and yep are consistently the higher priced dealer of the two.

i agree but for venezeulans they have brothers in arms....

[TheNightmanCometh]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

i agree but for venezeulans they have brothers in arms....

Are they as big as those two? I wonder if regular folks who happen to just have some VZs for sale look at Dean's and Yep's prices and list theirs according to what those two list theirs for.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by TheNightmanCometh

Are they as big as those two? I wonder if regular folks who happen to just have some VZs for sale look at Dean's and Yep's prices and list theirs according to what those two list theirs for.

good point..it always funny to see pawn store shows when the ask the guy trying to sell the item where he got his price from he normally says 'thats what i see them for sale for'.....pawn guy always says 'they can ask for anything but that doesnt say what they sell for/what they worth'

[kcohen]

Originally Posted by TheNightmanCometh

Latest round of Venezuelans posted by our faves, Dean's cards and Yepbg. As per usual, disgustingly overpriced.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw...zuela&_sacat=0

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw...uelan&_sacat=0

With the Venezuelan economy in shambles and the devaluation of the Bolivar, they're probably priced appropriately.