Was Cobb really as people perceive him???

[Joshchisox08]

Originally Posted by irishdenny

Hey There Josh...
Mr. Cobb has Always had an Intriguing Personality.
The Good and Bad, the two of me!
Aren't we all Subject to our environment?
Fir me the Man Seemed to have grown into a Gentlemen in his later life!
Bein "Mr. Charlie Hustle"(times Ten) in c1910ish, so ta Speak, along wit carryin a Tragic Youthful family event would lead anyone of us inta behavior that would, when looked back upon, cause us ta have some regret.

I know that You as the OP have asked fir others opinions...
However, it seems ta me that wit all of your due diligents inta Mr. Cobbs Life...
I fir one would Love ta hear Your Opinion of the Man.
So when You find the time.

Also, as bein an avid Matty fan...
I've Never Run Across this Story of "The Christian Gentleman" punching a fan,
Musta missed that one in its entirety. Or maybe I just firgot

Can You Point me and others wishin ta know about the Event,
where you came across this Story!?

Love ta read about it!

Thank You Kindly my Friend...

Well Denny to be honest I had thought (for the most part) as most people had until I started reading this new book.

It points out plenty of information that simply was said to have been true but is not.

Sure he had "spiked" other players but it was known in those days and for his opponents for that matter that the base paths were his and the other runners. The famous HR Baker spiking was blown well out of proportion which Baker admitted himself.

The Hotel dude had no indication as the author states of being black. Back in those days it was common to blow up a story or just flat out (if involving a black person) to use an ethnic slur in the paper. NONE of the papers from that indecent included such.

The Meat Cutter at the grocery store was also said to have been black which of course he was not. In the police report or whatever report it was of the grocery worker a designation of "W" was placed next to his name. Again not an ethnic slur in the paper about that person as well.

It was known that he had a black bat boy for about 7 years at one point. The bat-boy was looked after under his watch. Often Cobb supposedly let the bat-boy room with him when he was denied anywhere else to sleep, and made sure that he was fed.

These are just a few of the stories in the book that have proved Stump and Alexander's stories to be total BS. The author also said that he wrote to Alexander about the hotel incident and asked how he knew that the worker was black. Alexander replied that he had no concrete evidence and wrote it anyway.

Perhaps he was disliked because he went hard on the base paths and he took the game more serious than others. Perhaps Crawford was jealous that he took his spot light and got paid significantly better than him.

His short temper was there no doubt. As most Irishmen have a short fuse, I'm sure the death of his father had something to do with this.

To use an analogy of similar proportions. Those who knew about Lemmy Kilmister being accused of being a Nazi simply because he wore Nazi suites. He stated that if the Israeli army had the best looking uniforms he would have worn those. He was the worst Nazi ever for having black girlfriends. Cobb was no more a racist than Lemmy was a Nazi.

P.S. "The Christian Gentleman" was a part in the book which the other was making a point after the incident with the NY heckler, that he was far from the only player to have gotten into a scuff with a fan in the stands. The other named a couple players and didn't go into detail about any of them and at the end of the list mentioned Matty socking someone in the face.

That fan in particular was allegedly at all 3 or 4 games that series between the Tigers and Yanks. He was asked by Ty to stop the heckling. Ty even went into the Yankees dugout to ask that the fan be removed. I think it was the last game of the series and the fan had already started heckling him during batting practice. Just goes to show that it wasn't exactly like the fan was there said one thing at one game and the rest is history. There was a bit more back story to that incident.