PWCC Auction

[jmb]

Originally Posted by Beastmode

Anyone that values their time, is NOT looking at BINS. 98% of BINS are sellers trolling for bidiots.

Disagree. I mostly look at BINs. Just grabbed something a month ago I could easily flip for $750-$1000 profit, if I wanted to.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by jmb

Disagree. I mostly look at BINs. Just grabbed something a month ago I could easily flip for $750-$1000 profit, if I wanted to.

I disagree as well. And the thread was about PWCC, who sells all kinds of cards, not just T206's. Someone chimed in about the lack of good BIN's, so I just posted an example and got blasted. Business as usual.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

I disagree as well. And the thread was about PWCC, who sells all kinds of cards, not just T206's. Someone chimed in about the lack of good BIN's, so I just posted an example and got blasted. Business as usual.

i apologize for my overreaction...rough morning.

[Bored5000]

I am not denying that shilling happens in some PWCC auctions (and Probstein and many random eBay sellers as well). It is obvious from looking at the bid history that there is some shady bidding going on at times.

But I think PWCC gets the prices he does because of how much visibility he has. He has just under 6,000 followers and still starts auctions at 99 cents on a site where auctions have greatly diminished in recent years. Is there any other card seller on eBay with anything close to 6,000 followers?

I have never consigned anything to PWCC, so I don't have an agenda from that standpoint. But he has so many followers because he has amazing stuff in all of his auctions. Almost every time he runs an auction, I see cards that I never even knew existed or rarely see up for auction.

Eddie Sm*th

[Exhibitman]

There are some great bargain BINS (sorry couldn't resist) but they cluster around the cards with high pops, which will be postwar mainstream. Hell I picked up a huge card on my list the other night for what I thought was a great bargain via BIN. If the seller actually ships and the card is as advertised I will be very pleased. I was so surprised to see the price that I actually checked the PSA certification, which I have never done before.

But I digress.

Oddly enough for N54 all sides are a bit right in this one. PWCC and Probstein are shill bidding havens. No doubt of that. Honest consignors are there too. Some of the honestly sold items do fetch great prices because they have strong mailing lists and good advertising and like it or not they do drive eyes to their offerings. At the same time there is as much cheating there as a bazaar in Teheran. The buzzwords really are watch your ass in these auctions. I bid in them as I did in the other bad ones with eyes wide open.

[glchen]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

I disagree as well. And the thread was about PWCC, who sells all kinds of cards, not just T206's. Someone chimed in about the lack of good BIN's, so I just posted an example and got blasted. Business as usual.

Bobby, next time just replace the words "George Brett rookie card" (or any other vintage or modern card) with "T206 rare back," and you'll be good.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by glchen

Bobby, next time just replace the words "George Brett rookie card" (or any other vintage or modern card) with "T206 rare back," and you'll be good.

LOL....sounds good......

[mechanicalman]

Some of my best purchases are from BINs. I've bid on and won some PWCC auctions, and even one or two Probstein auctions.

It's good to know, then, that any time I have too good a day or feel too good about my life, I can log onto Net54 and remind myself that I'm a complete fool, or bidiot. This board keeps me grounded.

[Beastmode]

Originally Posted by mechanicalman

Some of my best purchases are from BINs. I've bid on and won some PWCC auctions, and even one or two Probstein auctions.

It's good to know, then, that any time I have too good a day or feel too good about my life, I can log onto Net54 and remind myself that I'm a complete fool, or bidiot. This board keeps me grounded.

Just my opinion, no disrespect. Looks like you found the 2% that are priced correctly. I do find it ironic that not one BIN lover on this thread has posted a link to these fabulously under priced BIN's. very telling....

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Beastmode

Just my opinion, no disrespect. Looks like you found the 2% that are priced correctly. I do find it ironic that not one BIN lover on this thread has posted a link to these fabulously under priced BIN's. very telling....

You want links to UNDER priced BIN's or NORMAL priced BIN's?? Or SEVERLY under priced BIN's?? Give me some parameters and I will be happy to oblige (provided the links haven't timed out)....

[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by Beastmode

Just my opinion, no disrespect. Looks like you found the 2% that are priced correctly. I do find it ironic that not one BIN lover on this thread has posted a link to these fabulously under priced BIN's. very telling....

Not gonna proclaim "fabulously under priced", but definitely feel this was a solid buy at $275, especially given a creased BVG4 sold for $390 a week later and that I had a 4x bid bucks promotion when I clicked buy.

Pardon the postwar example, but it's the best priced BIN I still have in my purchase history, and figure it prooves the point as effectively as prewar. I'm with the others who have found good BIN and BIN OBO deals. I'd guess at least 1/4 of my buys come via well priced BIN.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/141888112445...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT


Also happy with these recent BIN, both coupled with 5x bid bucks promotions..

http://www.ebay.com/itm/172074685816...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

http://www.ebay.com/itm/361434076697...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

... And the obligatory Brett rookie... Errrrrr, T206 print oddity

http://www.ebay.com/itm/371519156603...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

http://www.ebay.com/itm/201493708764...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

The above may not necessarily be steals, but most/all are prices I'd have happily paid at auction.

BTW-- revising my earlier 1/4 estimate.. Actually 11 of my most recent 15 eBay purchases have come via BIN, and been accompanied by 3-5x bid buck promotions.